Discussion in 'Sport & Athletics' started by Poppy, Dec 16, 2012.
I too am quite baffled that they didn't give it to Lynch.
To paraphrase Monty: The pass was 90% successful.
Turned off the tv too late. My mind would still be able to deny the hawks actually threw the ball over the middle with 30 seconds left that close to the goal.
Unsure if some of the Hernandez evidence would be allowed in Canadian court...
Thinking the OJ outcome had more to do with avoiding riots...That whole story seems incredible now. Remember watching the verdict, and seeing so many people happy about OJ not being convicted. The evidence was ovewhelming, but was slashed to death by Cochrane and associates, inept judge/ prosecution/ police and jurors...And to see all OJ's fans celebrate- sickening.
Look how messed up the Casey Anthony trial ended.
Something rather nice comes out of the recently overlooked under reported football game. Tom Brady was given a new Chevrolet Colorado pickup for being MVP. He gave it to Malcolm Butler as a gift. . Of course Brady and his wife are in the infamous 1% and Butler's future is yet to be determined so I thought it a nice gesture. Malcolm grew up in one of the poorest parts of Mississippi and Alabama so I wish him a great future.
I was very impressed that as a walk on rookie he was on the field in the game winning goal line stand.
Good things do happen in the NFL. Thanks Gaines.
That was a really neat gesture done by Tom Brady. Well as they say: dreams do sometime come true. I will say that Malcolm Butler has probably placed himself in one of the pages of NFL history after that interception.
Also Russell Wilson, despite the heart breaking loss, he still went to a children's hospital in Seattle yesterday like he always does on Tuesdays. Thumbs up to him.
I'm happy to see stuff like that. Part of being successful is being able to keep life in perspective and staying out of trouble.
On the other side of the barbed wire fence, we have the former Viking and soon-to-be-former Packer DT Letroy Guion. I know, I know. Innocent until proven guilty... in a court of law.
I agree, Tommy. The story of Josh Gordon (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12275102/nfl-suspends-josh-gordon-cleveland-browns-least-one-year) is another black eye for the NFL. Here's a young man with a bright future who can't stay away from drugs. He knew he was subject to random testing and still persisted in the activity. Oh, well.
You know one of the things I have always thought about that I might ask you guys but after all that happened with Adrian Peterson, do you think he deserved the punishment or should he have gotten worse? I am just really curious. I have never seen anyone mention it on this topic.
Thought this was an interesting article worth sharing.
And this made me chuckle...hehehe
Looks like TBrady might have been a little more involved with soft balls than he originally admitted to.
There must be consequences. ..figure at least 6 regular season game suspension. Anything less would send a signal that cheating is tolerated. ..Also there should be a large fine against Brady, and the Pats who should govern their players better (Hernandez).
The two cases show how the Pats organization will stoop to any level to gain advantage.
It certainly doesn't help his reputation at all.
Most businesses who employ people must do their "due diligance" regarding employees.
The Pats should be partly libel in regards to the Hernandez killings...he had a bad history which could probaby be proven.
Living in New England you can probably imagine the feelings of most Pats fans. Surprisingly, many I talk to agree there needs to be a suspension. I agree with you Poppy,6 games will jam the point home (though I think he'll get half that). The Hernandez thing was just a huge enabling event. Kraft and Bill should have known better. He had a rap sheet a mile long. His talent superseded that they figured.
A lot of teams employ talented thugs. The Raiders were a motley crew at one time...Why Ray Lewis isn't behind bars is a mystery.
Prolly the nfl isn't responsible for crimes comitted on personal time... but they know if a player is a "good guy" by draft or trade time. Smoke/fire...this list is only a fraction.
merican football (Gridiron)
free agent (recently released from the Philadelphia Eagles)
Released after 33 months
180 days and ten years probation
New York Giants
Attempted criminal possession of a weapon
Conviction was a plea bargain for an incident in which Burress accidentally shot himself in a nightclub. Eligible for parole in April 2011; released June 7, 2011.
Served 2½ years. Had been elected to the College Football Hall of Fame before his conviction in 1983, but the Hall rescinded the honor before his scheduled induction. The Hall elected him a second time in 2008 and he was inducted at that time.
conspiracy to commit murder
Projected Release Date October 22, 2018
Released after serving 13 years 
conspiracy to commit securities fraud, mail fraud and money laundering then wire fraud and money laundering
7 years then 7½ years 
criminally negligent homicide
12½ years 
Hit and run accident. Released after serving approximately eight years.
Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson
retired (from Dallas Cowboys)
sexual assault, bribery
4 years, eight months
released after serving 28 months
Los Angeles Rams
drug trafficking, attempted conspiracy to commit murder
expected release date: March 28, 2031
life without parole
Free agent, recently released from Denver Broncos
served two years and five months
Fraud, Bribery and Money Laundering
46 Months  to be followed by two years of supervised release
Conspiracy to possess cocaine and marijuana with intent to distribute
Mark Ingram, Sr
Money Laundering and Fraud
7 Years in prison and up to 5 years of probation. Ordered to pay $252,000 in restitution. Given an additional two years in prison for jumping bail to see his son Mark Ingram, Jr play for the University of Alabama.
Ingram, Sr is currently housed at Yazoo City Federal Correctional Complex
Terry "Tank" Johnson
probation violation relating to weapons possession
served 60 days
Green Bay Packers
drug possession, evidence tampering, violating probation
served six months
burglary, drug possession
5 years, also faces parole revocation on earlier drug possession conviction.
Ryan Leaf Inmate Page at Montana Department of Corrections website
using a cell phone to facilitate a drug deal
served four months
St. Louis Rams
involved in fatal car crash while intoxicated.
drug possession, evidence tampering
4 years (1996) 2 years (2002)
served over three years total
retired (Giants, Patriots and Jets)
criminal sexual conduct and burglary
previously convicted of misdemeanor sexual battery 
Byron "Bam" Morris
Kansas City Chiefs
released after serving two and a half years
Eugene "Mercury" Morris
retired from Miami Dolphins
Served 3 years. released early after a plea agreement in which he pled no contest to felony drug trafficking charges
life in prison without the possibility of parole
retired from Dallas Cowboys
7½ years (two separate convictions)
released after serving about two and a half years
assault, separate incident of assault with a deadly weapon (intentionally driving into victims)
31 years total
previously sentenced to 10 years on driving charge, which was reduced to seven years during sentencing for assault charge against his girlfriend in 2009.
tax evasion, fraud
1 1/2 years in prison and 2 1/2 years of home confinement
Robert Rozier (a.k.a. Robert Rameses)
retired from St. Louis Cardinals
convicted of four murders, served 10 years and placed in witness protection after testifying against Yahweh Ben Yahweh, later sentenced to 25 to life on check kiting charge under three strikes rule
1997 - forgery, theft
committed over 20 felonies related to gambling, released from prison in June 2006
2012 - fraud, theft
10 years, 7 months
7 months were related to his probation from an earlier conviction.
six to 23 months
sold marijuana to undercover cops
rape (multiple counts)
nine years imprisonment, lifetime probation
Orenthal "O. J." Simpson
nine to thirty-three years
See also O. J. Simpson robbery case.
retired/cut (from Chicago Bears)
interference with a flight crew, simple assault
served one year
DUI Manslaughter (Driving under the influence of alcohol)
30 Days incarceration, 2 years house arrest
conspiracy, related to dog fighting
See also Bad Newz Kennels dog fighting investigation.
unlawful sexual conduct with a minor
Stanley Wilson Sr.
retired from Cincinnati Bengals
sentence was under a third strike provision 
multiple charges including sexual assault, armed robbery, kidnapping and burglary
114 years to life, plus 120 years
series of home invasion robberies and assaults
I think that the four game suspension for Brady, the $1 million fine for the Pats, and the losing two of their first round picks next year seemed like a good enough point was made and was the necessary punishment.
The million dollar fine is "chump" change to a team with an annual operating income of 140 million dollars.
That I can understand, but I think the four game suspension of their star player is 'okay' enough along.