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    I too am quite baffled that they didn't give it to Lynch. :confused:
     
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    To paraphrase Monty: The pass was 90% successful.
     
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    Turned off the tv too late. My mind would still be able to deny the hawks actually threw the ball over the middle with 30 seconds left that close to the goal.

    Unsure if some of the Hernandez evidence would be allowed in Canadian court...

    Thinking the OJ outcome had more to do with avoiding riots...That whole story seems incredible now. Remember watching the verdict, and seeing so many people happy about OJ not being convicted. The evidence was ovewhelming, but was slashed to death by Cochrane and associates, inept judge/ prosecution/ police and jurors...And to see all OJ's fans celebrate- sickening.

    Look how messed up the Casey Anthony trial ended.
     
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    Something rather nice comes out of the recently overlooked under reported football game. Tom Brady was given a new Chevrolet Colorado pickup for being MVP. He gave it to Malcolm Butler as a gift. . Of course Brady and his wife are in the infamous 1% and Butler's future is yet to be determined so I thought it a nice gesture. Malcolm grew up in one of the poorest parts of Mississippi and Alabama so I wish him a great future.

    I was very impressed that as a walk on rookie he was on the field in the game winning goal line stand.

    Gaines
     
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    Good things do happen in the NFL. Thanks Gaines.
     
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    That was a really neat gesture done by Tom Brady. Well as they say: dreams do sometime come true. I will say that Malcolm Butler has probably placed himself in one of the pages of NFL history after that interception.

    Also Russell Wilson, despite the heart breaking loss, he still went to a children's hospital in Seattle yesterday like he always does on Tuesdays. Thumbs up to him.
     

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    I'm happy to see stuff like that. Part of being successful is being able to keep life in perspective and staying out of trouble.

    On the other side of the barbed wire fence, we have the former Viking and soon-to-be-former Packer DT Letroy Guion. I know, I know. Innocent until proven guilty... in a court of law.
     
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    You know one of the things I have always thought about that I might ask you guys but after all that happened with Adrian Peterson, do you think he deserved the punishment or should he have gotten worse? I am just really curious. I have never seen anyone mention it on this topic.
     
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    Looks like TBrady might have been a little more involved with soft balls than he originally admitted to.
    There must be consequences. ..figure at least 6 regular season game suspension. Anything less would send a signal that cheating is tolerated. ..Also there should be a large fine against Brady, and the Pats who should govern their players better (Hernandez).
    The two cases show how the Pats organization will stoop to any level to gain advantage.
     
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    It certainly doesn't help his reputation at all.
     
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    Most businesses who employ people must do their "due diligance" regarding employees.
    The Pats should be partly libel in regards to the Hernandez killings...he had a bad history which could probaby be proven.
     
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    Living in New England you can probably imagine the feelings of most Pats fans. Surprisingly, many I talk to agree there needs to be a suspension. I agree with you Poppy,6 games will jam the point home (though I think he'll get half that). The Hernandez thing was just a huge enabling event. Kraft and Bill should have known better. He had a rap sheet a mile long. His talent superseded that they figured.
     
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    A lot of teams employ talented thugs. The Raiders were a motley crew at one time...Why Ray Lewis isn't behind bars is a mystery.
    Prolly the nfl isn't responsible for crimes comitted on personal time... but they know if a player is a "good guy" by draft or trade time. Smoke/fire...this list is only a fraction.

    merican football (Gridiron)

    Name

    Status

    Crime

    Term

    Notes

    Kevin Allen

    free agent (recently released from the Philadelphia Eagles)

    sexual assault

    15 years[1]

    Released after 33 months

    Michael Bennett

    cut/retired

    wire fraud

    15 months[2]



    Josh Brent

    Dallas Cowboys

    intoxication manslaughter

    180 days and ten years probation[3]



    Plaxico Burress

    New York Giants

    Attempted criminal possession of a weapon

    2 years

    Conviction was a plea bargain for an incident in which Burress accidentally shot himself in a nightclub.[4] Eligible for parole in April 2011;[5] released June 7, 2011.[6]

    Billy Cannon

    Retired

    Counterfeiting

    5 years[7]

    Served 2½ years. Had been elected to the College Football Hall of Fame before his conviction in 1983, but the Hall rescinded the honor before his scheduled induction. The Hall elected him a second time in 2008 and he was inducted at that time.[7]

    Rae Carruth

    Carolina Panthers

    conspiracy to commit murder

    24 years[8]

    Projected Release Date October 22, 2018[9]

    Cecil Collins

    Miami Dolphins

    burglary

    15 years[10]

    Released after serving 13 years [11]

    Russell Erxleben

    Retired

    conspiracy to commit securities fraud, mail fraud and money laundering then wire fraud and money laundering

    7 years then 7½ years [12]



    Dwayne Goodrich

    Dallas Cowboys

    criminally negligent homicide

    12½ years [13]

    Hit and run accident. Released after serving approximately eight years.[14]

    Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson

    retired (from Dallas Cowboys)

    sexual assault, bribery

    4 years, eight months

    released after serving 28 months[15]

    Darryl Henley

    Los Angeles Rams

    drug trafficking, attempted conspiracy to commit murder

    41 years[16]

    expected release date: March 28, 2031[17]

    Aaron Hernandez

    cut

    first-degree murder

    life without parole[18]



    Travis Henry

    Free agent, recently released from Denver Broncos

    drug trafficking

    3 years[19]

    served two years and five months[20]

    Jimmy Hitchcock

    Retired

    Fraud, Bribery and Money Laundering

    46 Months [21] to be followed by two years of supervised release[22]



    Sam Hurd

    Chicago Bears

    Conspiracy to possess cocaine and marijuana with intent to distribute

    15 years[23]



    Mark Ingram, Sr

    Retired

    Money Laundering and Fraud

    7 Years in prison and up to 5 years of probation. Ordered to pay $252,000 in restitution. Given an additional two years in prison for jumping bail to see his son Mark Ingram, Jr play for the University of Alabama.[24]

    Ingram, Sr is currently housed at Yazoo City Federal Correctional Complex

    Terry "Tank" Johnson

    Chicago Bears

    probation violation relating to weapons possession

    120 days

    served 60 days[25]

    Johnny Jolly

    Green Bay Packers

    drug possession, evidence tampering, violating probation[26]

    6 years

    served six months[27]

    Tommy Kane

    Seattle Seahawks

    manslaughter

    18 years[28]



    Ryan Leaf

    retired

    burglary, drug possession

    5 years, also faces parole revocation on earlier drug possession conviction.[29]

    Ryan Leaf Inmate Page at Montana Department of Corrections website

    Jamal Lewis

    Baltimore Ravens

    using a cell phone to facilitate a drug deal

    four months

    served four months[30]

    Leonard Little

    St. Louis Rams

    involuntary manslaughter

    three months[31]

    involved in fatal car crash while intoxicated.

    Dexter Manley

    Washington Redskins

    drug possession, evidence tampering

    4 years (1996) 2 years (2002)

    served over three years total[32]

    Dave Meggett

    retired (Giants, Patriots and Jets)

    criminal sexual conduct and burglary

    30 years

    previously convicted of misdemeanor sexual battery [33]

    Byron "Bam" Morris

    Kansas City Chiefs

    drug trafficking

    30 months

    released after serving two and a half years[34]

    Eugene "Mercury" Morris

    retired from Miami Dolphins

    drug trafficking

    20 years

    Served 3 years. released early after a plea agreement in which he pled no contest to felony drug trafficking charges[35]

    Eric Naposki

    retired/cut

    first-degree murder

    life in prison without the possibility of parole[36]



    Nate Newton

    retired from Dallas Cowboys

    drug trafficking

    7½ years (two separate convictions)[37]

    released after serving about two and a half years[38]

    Lawrence Phillips

    released/retired

    assault, separate incident of assault with a deadly weapon (intentionally driving into victims)

    31 years total

    previously sentenced to 10 years on driving charge, which was reduced to seven years during sentencing for assault charge against his girlfriend in 2009.[39]

    Joseph Prokop

    released/retired

    tax evasion, fraud

    1 1/2 years in prison and 2 1/2 years of home confinement[40]

    Robert Rozier (a.k.a. Robert Rameses)

    retired from St. Louis Cardinals[41]

    multiple murders

    multiple

    convicted of four murders, served 10 years and placed in witness protection after testifying against Yahweh Ben Yahweh, later sentenced to 25 to life on check kiting charge under three strikes rule[42]

    Art Schlichter

    Indianapolis Colts

    1997 - forgery, theft

    16 years[43]

    committed over 20 felonies related to gambling, released from prison in June 2006[44]



    2012 - fraud, theft

    10 years, 7 months[45]

    7 months were related to his probation from an earlier conviction.[46]

    Austin Scott

    retired

    drug dealing

    six to 23 months

    sold marijuana to undercover cops[47]

    Darren Sharper

    retired

    rape (multiple counts)

    nine years imprisonment, lifetime probation[48]



    Orenthal "O. J." Simpson

    retired

    robbery, kidnapping

    nine to thirty-three years[49]

    See also O. J. Simpson robbery case.

    Alonzo Spellman

    retired/cut (from Chicago Bears)

    interference with a flight crew, simple assault[50]

    18 months

    served one year

    Donte Stallworth

    Cleveland Browns

    DUI Manslaughter (Driving under the influence of alcohol)

    30 Days incarceration, 2 years house arrest

    [51]

    Michael Vick

    Atlanta Falcons

    conspiracy, related to dog fighting[52]

    23 months[53]

    See also Bad Newz Kennels dog fighting investigation.

    Nate Webster

    cut/retired

    unlawful sexual conduct with a minor

    12 years[54]



    Stanley Wilson Sr.

    retired from Cincinnati Bengals

    burglary

    22 years

    sentence was under a third strike provision [55]

    Keith Wright

    cut/retired

    multiple charges including sexual assault, armed robbery, kidnapping and burglary

    114 years to life, plus 120 years[56]

    series of home invasion robberies and assaults
     
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    I think that the four game suspension for Brady, the $1 million fine for the Pats, and the losing two of their first round picks next year seemed like a good enough point was made and was the necessary punishment.
     
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    The million dollar fine is "chump" change to a team with an annual operating income of 140 million dollars.
     
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    That I can understand, but I think the four game suspension of their star player is 'okay' enough along.
     

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