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Raoul Wallenberg

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  1. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    I put this here because he probably died at a Russian concentration camp?


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    Raoul Wallenberg


    According to Per Anger, Wallenberg's friend and colleague, Wallenberg must be honored with saving at least 100,000 Jews.


    On January 13, 1945, an advancing Soviet troop saw a man standing and waiting for them in front of a house with a large Swedish flag above the door. In fluent Russian, Raoul Wallenberg explained to a surprised Russian sergeant that he was Swedish chargé d'affaires for the Russian-liberated parts of Hungary. Wallenberg requested, and was given permission to visit the Soviet military headquarters in the city of Debrecen east of Budapest.

    On his way out of the capital on January 17th—with Russian escort—Wallenberg and his driver stopped at the “Swedish houses” to say good-bye to his friends. To one of his colleagues, Dr. Ernö Petö, Wallenberg said that he wasn't sure if he was going to be the Russian's guest or their prisoner. Raoul Wallenberg thought he'd be back within eight days--but he has been missing since then.

    Whether Raoul Wallenberg is alive or not is uncertain. The Russians claim that he died in Russian captivity on July 17, 1947.

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    On December 22, 2000, the Russian prosecutor's office issued a formal statement acknowledging that Wallenberg was held in a Soviet prison as a "socially dangerous" person for two and a half years before he died. This statement followed one by Alexander Yakovlev, the Russian official appointed to investigate the Wallenberg affair, who stated in November 2000 that Wallenberg had been executed in 1947. However, since the Russians further indicated that all records relating to Wallenberg's arrest have been destroyed, no evidence of his imprisonment or death apparently exists.

    http://www.ushmm.org/research/library/bibliography/raoul/right.htm


    Or has somebody more information on his destiny?
     
  2. Heartland

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    Nope, he is still lost. About a year ago, I believe, some ex-Gulag prisoner said he had met Wallenberg. Also said he died back in 1947 if memory serves. Just another unconfirmed witness though... :(

    Interesting fact: Raoul Wallenberg in 1981 became the second foreigner to be named a honorary US citizen - after Winston Churchill. Apparently he is also the only one ever be granted honorary Canadian citizenship(?).

    "How can we comprehend the moral worth of a man who saved tens and tens of thousands of lives ... Wherever he is, his humanity burns like a torch..."
    - Ronald Reagan

    "Wallenberg will never be forgotten in the annals of Israel. He placed his own life in jeopardy, day in and day out, in order to continue his rescue efforts. Raoul Wallenberg, the Jewish people are forever in your debt. We shall hand this memory down to our descendants to the generations yet to come, to be cherished always."
    -Menachem Begin

    "I do not know what place Raoul Wallenberg occupies in the history of his people, but I do know the place he occupies in ours; it is a place
    reserved for a man embodying our thirst for justice and dignity and above all our quest for humanity."
    -Elie Wiesel

    "I consider Raoul Wallenberg to be one of those people of the 20th century to whom all of mankind is greatly indebted and ought to be proud of."
    -Andrei Sakharov

    "He stood there in the street, probably feeling the loneliest man in the world, trying to pretend there was something behind him. They could have shot him there then in the street and nobody would have known about it."
    -Tommy Lapid

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  3. Heartland

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    Oh yeah, and in January 2001 a joint Russian - Swedish investigation presented its findings. The Russian part were convinced he had died of a heartattack in 1947 at Lyublyanka prison, while the Swedish part were much less convinced.

    Of course, in 1947 he would have been aged 34. Not the most common age for a heartattack is it?
     
  4. Kai-Petri

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    I cannot remember which book it was but a German soldier wrote in his biography that he while he was in prison, he did see Wallenburg and it was past 47' at the time. I believe it was Weidling's adjutant who wrote the book. Cannot remember his name though but he was a colonel and was in the prison for General Staff officers and higher ups.
     
  7. ozjohn39

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    I have read that he died in the Wrangell Island (Siberia) 'Gulag'.

    John.
     
  8. piirtopoika2009

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    Good day to you all.

    I am an amateur historian who has a special field of interest. -Equestrian connections in the WWII- . Adolf Eichmann had in Budapest a stable at the Tattersall with very well bred and trained horses and he was 'dealing 'with Wallenberg. Eichmann has been training 'Horsemanship and the art of riding ' at the SS Hauptreitschule in Munich { founded by Himmler} under command of Herman Fegelein. There are stories which do tell tales about 'blood for goods' in Hungary in 1944/1945. In Equestrian circles of the SS there were a lot of Royals and noble people. 81% of the Reiter SS were members of the aristocrathy. The files about Wallenberg are 'cleaned' propably to 'protect' some very high Royals and 'noveau riches' people and also so called captains of industry and members of the banking/financial world. The crownprince of Sweden, Gustav Adolf of Sweden of the Bernadotte dynasty who did die in a plane accident in 1947 in Danmark has been a close compagnion of R.W.

    Does anyone know that the Lipizzaner horses of the Vienesse Spanish ridingschool found a refuge at the castle of the cousine of R.W. in St. Martin in Austria.? The countess Gertrud Arco-Valley born Wallenberg boarded kindley all the highschool Lippizaner stallions of the Austrian col. Alois Podhajsky.Even on the 7th of May 1945 the commander of the Viennese school gave a dislay for General Patton and some high USA members of the War department . Did anyone ever heard of a Hungarian Royal Spanish Rdingschool in Budapest? My Hungarian riding teacher{ personal lifeguard of the Hungarian regent Miklos Horthy} has been the last commander of that 'forgotten' institution. He has had indirect contact with General George S. Patton jr.around the 28 th. of April 1945 and with R.W during the Siege of Budapest.At the 15 the of October 1944 he was present at the forced abdiction of Horthy { Operation Mickey Mouse }

    Walt Disney made a film { 1963 } about those Lipizzaner 'horse events' and did call it "the miracle of the white stallions" The name of my former ridingteacher and ex Lt. col. of the cavalry of the Hungarian Honved Army is mentioned in that film. Two relatives of Wallenberg were members of the Bilderberg group founded by Prince Berhard of the Netherlands in 1954 and in that same year he became also president of the international Equestrian Federation in Laussane. The riders of the Reiter SS units have been freed from any war crimes alligations and crimes against humanity at the Nuernberg trials in 1946/1947!

    Janos
     
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    Raoul Wallenberg declared dead 71 years after vanishing - CNN

    (CNN)Raoul Wallenberg, the Swedish diplomat who saved thousands of Jews from certain death during World War II, has been formally declared dead by the Swedish government 71 years after he vanished.

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    Wallenberg has been honored for his wartime efforts around the globe. He was awarded the US Congressional Gold medal in 2012. Pictured, a woman touches his memorial in Budapest.
     

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