Welcome to the WWII Forums! Log in or Sign up to interact with the community.

Star Wars Episode III

Discussion in 'The Members Lounge' started by Boba Nette, May 11, 2005.

  1. Notmi

    Notmi New Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2004
    Messages:
    1,958
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Suomi Finland Perkele
    via TanksinWW2
    Grocery: Store wars

    Edit: Link wont work anymore
     
  2. Jeffrey phpbb3

    Jeffrey phpbb3 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2005
    Messages:
    476
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    The Netherlands
    via TanksinWW2
    You are talking like yuo haven't seen tje movies at all, special effects in the old movies OFCOURSE not so great...they had the best special effects for the movie at there time...

    You can't complain about the special effects in the new 3 movies, they are absolutely amazing, if you think they aren't you haven't seen the movies :lol:

    About the acting, no compains about them, this is the way these figures are, its Star Wars, Jedi's have to talk the way they do and there is nothing to complain about!!!!!

    BTW PEOPLE, DON'T CONFUSE STAR WARS TO STAR TREK AS STAR TREK SUCKS FOR OST PEOPLE, STAR WARS IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT KIND OF MOVIE(S)
     
  3. Jeffrey phpbb3

    Jeffrey phpbb3 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2005
    Messages:
    476
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    The Netherlands
    via TanksinWW2
    If you haven't seen episode 4,5 and 6 than you probably won't like tike episode 1,2 and 3 very much, most people that are bitching about Star Wars either think Star Wars is Star Trek (...) or they haven't seen the first 3 parts, and than there is a group that don't understand much about movies and turn the tv off when it isn't even finished, so they won't understand the next movie (episode 3) BUT DO start bitching about this movie...

    Its all a matter of taste, and probably alot of people on this forum got no taste or just don't like SF movies..*ahum...Roel...ahum*

    + It is THE #1 ''bestseller'' in all cinema's, it broke all records...
     
  4. PMN1

    PMN1 recruit

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2004
    Messages:
    1,032
    Likes Received:
    0
    via TanksinWW2
    At least Star Trek fans have some common sense


    Two hurt in mock light sabre duel

    Two Star Wars fans are in a critical condition in hospital after apparently trying to make light sabres by filling fluorescent light tubes with petrol.
    A man, aged 20, and a girl of 17 are believed to have been filming a mock duel when they poured fuel into two glass tubes and lit it.

    The pair were rushed to hospital after one of the devices exploded in woodland at Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire.

    A third person present at the incident had been questioned, police said.

    Videotape found

    A videotape was found nearby by police called to the scene on Sunday.

    A police spokeswoman said the pair were taken to West Herts Hospital before being transferred to the specialist burns unit at Broomfield Hospital, Chelmsford, in Essex.

    They are both said to be in a critical condition.

    She said the 17-year-old girl and a 20-year-old man from Hemel Hempstead suffered serious injuries.

    She added: "At this stage we are unable to confirm the exact circumstances, but glass tubes and traces of accelerant (flammable substance) were found at the scene."

    The final film in the Star Wars series, Revenge Of The Sith, arrived at UK cinemas last week.

    One of the crucial scenes features a light sabre battle between Ewan McGregor's Obi-Wan Kenobi and Hayden Christensen as Anakin Skywalker

    :kill: :smok:
     
  5. Boba Nette

    Boba Nette New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2004
    Messages:
    3,142
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Chicago
    via TanksinWW2
    When it comes to stupidity,some people know no bounds!Unbelievable!
     
  6. Jeffrey phpbb3

    Jeffrey phpbb3 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2005
    Messages:
    476
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    The Netherlands
    via TanksinWW2
    Shit like that happens all the time, also with other movies, maybe there have been accidents with Star Trek nerds...euhh I mean Fans that tried to make a spaceship so they could explore the univers...

    About those stormtroopers that can't aim: Have you ever seen a movie where the bad guys actually kill the most important people in the movie?

    Don't think so, so don't bash the Stormtroopers :wink:
     
  7. PMN1

    PMN1 recruit

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2004
    Messages:
    1,032
    Likes Received:
    0
    via TanksinWW2
    They do that very well themselves.....running into doorframes.

    :smok: :kill:
     
  8. Roel

    Roel New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2003
    Messages:
    12,678
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Netherlands
    via TanksinWW2
    Just remember that your opinion isn't the only one out there...

    There is a lot more to a movie than just the plot; my principal objection to the Star Wars movies is basically the acting. And I really did see the movies, and I watched these people try to set up good characters and failing miserably. If the lines of those telling you the plot aren't convincing, then how convincing is the plot?

    The fact that many people like it doesn't mean it's good. The statement that "so many people can't be wrong" is about the most naive statement ever made, in any context.
     
  9. Jeffrey phpbb3

    Jeffrey phpbb3 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2005
    Messages:
    476
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    The Netherlands
    via TanksinWW2
    If the public likes it, its a good movie, this is the way it goes in the movie-world, and I don't know what is wrng with the acting, I have seen over 200 populair movies with all very good actors and when looking at the character's acting its just PERFECT for this kind of movies, I guess you can't see that, they where all good and Palpatine was GREAT, very nice piece of acting, especially when he changes his voice, amazing!
     
  10. PMN1

    PMN1 recruit

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2004
    Messages:
    1,032
    Likes Received:
    0
    via TanksinWW2
    Talk about oozing evil
     
  11. Simonr1978

    Simonr1978 New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2004
    Messages:
    3,392
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Kent, UK
    via TanksinWW2
    If the public likes it, its a good movie

    No, if the public like it it's a popular movie, not necessarily a good one, infact if anything the opposite is true since it must appeal to the lowest common demoninator...

    Actually, I have seen the original three IV, V, and VI, and am old enough to remember going to the cinema to watch Return of the Jedi (A New Hope predates me by a year!). I think they're really good films, good escapism, good fun, good sci-fi.

    I do not like the first 2, Episode I I feel I can pass judgement on since I watched it a few times, mainly I think to see if it improved with time, sadly it didn't, to me at least.

    The main problems I have with Phantom Menace are firstly that it is Star Wars PC, the bulk of the deaths are of Droids with all the sympathy of crushing a calculator, at least Storm Troopers are meant to be human, or at least life forms.

    Darth Maul was basically pointless, did he even have a line of script to recite? If he did it was so memorable that I've blanked it!

    The whole Metaclorians (Sp?) business... The Force was fine when it was an indefinable power, something you either had or didn't. The biggest mistake for me was trying to explain it by these previously unmentioned microbes. It leaves more questions than it answers, crucially it leaves more questions than were asked in the first place. If these are the case why can they not be cultured? Why can they not be transplanted? Why in short can you not create a Jedi? It was a huge mistake, and an unnecessary one...

    Episode II I didn't even finish watching, and still haven't. I'm sorry but it is dull, really, really dull. I guess part of it might be because you basically know what is going to happen anyway, so I have a feeling that I'll think the same of Revenge of the Sith, but there are many films I can watch time and time again without finding boring, Ep II was tedious first time round. I'll probably find it tedious the next and the next... I will try to watch it through at some point so I reserve my full judgement till then.

    As Roel said though Jeffery, there is more than just your opinion, mine or Roel's is equally valid, he has his reasons for disliking the films, I have my reasons for liking the originals but disliking the new batch, and others have their reasons for their opinions. Yours are just one of the multitude of the spectrum. I do not dimiss your opinions as invalid because they do not agree with mine, please do not dismiss other's opinions because you consider yourself a "true" fan (Or is that Nerd? Depends on your point of view! :grin: ) and others disagree with you.
     
  12. Jeffrey phpbb3

    Jeffrey phpbb3 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2005
    Messages:
    476
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    The Netherlands
    via TanksinWW2
    I'm not gonna buy a t-shirt or a light-saber or something to go to the new Star Wars movie, so i'm not a nerd :lol: :wink:

    ''No, if the public like it it's a popular movie, not necessarily a good one, infact if anything the opposite is true since it must appeal to the lowest common demoninator...''

    I agree, but if the scepticy say it sucks and most people that have seen it say its great what does that say than?

    The main problems I have with Phantom Menace are firstly that it is Star Wars PC, the bulk of the deaths are of Droids with all the sympathy of crushing a calculator, at least Storm Troopers are meant to be human, or at least life forms.

    I don't understand, could you explain it to me again...? :oops:


    The whole Metaclorians (Sp?) business... The Force was fine when it was an indefinable power, something you either had or didn't. The biggest mistake for me was trying to explain it by these previously unmentioned microbes. It leaves more questions than it answers, crucially it leaves more questions than were asked in the first place. If these are the case why can they not be cultured? Why can they not be transplanted? Why in short can you not create a Jedi? It was a huge mistake, and an unnecessary one...

    Hmmm, are you talking about Qui Gong (spelling? :oops: ) when he asks Obi-wan to examin his blood?
    So you actually mean why they can't make a jedi-clone???

    Hmmm, maybe because its special ''jedi'' blood, that would be very clear, or maybe because it was ''a long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away'' so maybe they can't ''clone'' like we can with animals???
    I don't find it very ''sence making'' that you don't understand this :wink:

    ''Episode II I didn't even finish watching, and still haven't. I'm sorry but it is dull, really, really dull.''

    If you haven't watched this you will not, or partly not understand Episode 3, I also didn't much like Episode 2 at the beginning, than I watched it again and it is a very cool movie, you see how anakin starts to change in ''Darth Vader'' from the inside, very cool movie I find it now to be! (yoda talking :wink: )
     
  13. Roel

    Roel New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2003
    Messages:
    12,678
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Netherlands
    via TanksinWW2
    Depends on the grounds. If the critics don't like it because it's not like your average Hungarian movie (or other international coproduction said to be "cult"), then that doesn't mean much to the general public or to me. If they don't like it because the story or the acting or the effects or the whole thing is just bad, then it's a different matter.

    It seems that he's talking about the "explanation" given for the existence of the Force in some but not all beings, the one with the microbes living on the skin. Cloning is perfectly possible in the Far Far Away Galaxy, note that ep. II is about a clone army. So why didn't they just make a couple thousand Anakins and see how many would turn out good, and kill the rest?
     
  14. PMN1

    PMN1 recruit

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2004
    Messages:
    1,032
    Likes Received:
    0
    via TanksinWW2
    Star Destroyers suck

    Star Destroyers suck

    Star Destroyers suck

    :smok: :smok: :D :D
     
  15. Simonr1978

    Simonr1978 New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2004
    Messages:
    3,392
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Kent, UK
    via TanksinWW2
    Yep, that's it in a nutshell Roel. Or instead of that pick out a few dozen people to be the next generation of Jedi, culture up these microbes in a petri-dish half an hour on an intraveinous drip, and there's your new generation of Jedi.

    As I said, it was an unnecessary answer to a question that was not asked because really no-one wanted an explanation for the force, it was a power, that was it. Lucas seemed to have got it into his head to provide a sort of "Science behind the Force" bit and I think screwed it up because it was completely unecessary.

    I also said it was a sort of Star-Wars PC (PC in this case meaning Politically Correct). What I meant was that in all the fighting of the film there were only a handfull of deaths of actual living beings. The rest were largely annonymous unfeeling Droids, it was all a very clean war, nice safe lot's of bangs and flashes but hardly anyone really gets hurt.

    The Ultimate "Nice" war, and very Politically Correct.

    Plus the bit with young Annakin accidently destroying the Trade Federation's mother ship, oh please! That would have been unconvincing in a children's comic!

    Changing the subject slightly, the Media keep saying that Episode III is the last film of the Saga, does that mean that Lucas has no plans to make VII, VIII and IX? Is he (Hopefully!) just going to leave Return of the Jedi as the ending of the films?
     
  16. Jeffrey phpbb3

    Jeffrey phpbb3 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2005
    Messages:
    476
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    The Netherlands
    via TanksinWW2
    Ofcourse not, all are death, Darth Vader, yoda and obi-wan so why should they make another movie?????

    Cloning is perfectly possible in the Far Far Away Galaxy, note that ep. II is about a clone army. So why didn't they just make a couple thousand Anakins and see how many would turn out good, and kill the rest?

    Hmm, easy to explain of you just understand the meaning of Jedi, these clonetroopers are all clones of 1 NORMAL man, a Jedi is not normal and therefore they can't be cloned, that would be a logical explenation!

    ''I also said it was a sort of Star-Wars PC (PC in this case meaning Politically Correct). What I meant was that in all the fighting of the film there were only a handfull of deaths of actual living beings. The rest were largely annonymous unfeeling Droids, it was all a very clean war, nice safe lot's of bangs and flashes but hardly anyone really gets hurt.''

    Are you used to watch 1 or 2 star movies where lots of people get killed in the whole,length in the movie...???!!! If so than Star Wars is not the kind of movie for you..

    In Episode 1 there was a big battle between the droids and those Jar-Jar things (don't know how you call these race... :oops: )

    In Episode 2 there was a big battle between the droids and the clonetroopers

    In Episode 3 there is a big battle between the Chewbacca people( forgot there race name :oops: ) clonetroopers VS the droids than the clonetroopers VS the droids and the jedi's..

    So there are more than enough ''people'' dying...


    ''Plus the bit with young Annakin accidently destroying the Trade Federation's mother ship, oh please! That would have been unconvincing in a children's comic!''

    Did you forgot that he had ''the force'' with him and in the is future the most powerfull jedi on the galaxy..it was all meant to be :wink:
     
  17. Simonr1978

    Simonr1978 New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2004
    Messages:
    3,392
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Kent, UK
    via TanksinWW2
    Are you used to watch 1 or 2 star movies where lots of people get killed in the whole,length in the movie...???!!! If so than Star Wars is not the kind of movie for you..

    In Episode 1 there was a big battle between the droids and those Jar-Jar things (don't know how you call these race... ).


    Yes I know, but again in this battle the vast majority of the casualties are the Droids, not the Jar-Jar Bink's lot.

    I was refering to neither Attack of the Clones nor Revenge of the Sith in my comment so I wont respond to those.

    Compare these to episodes IV, V and VI, big battles, casualties on all sides of living beings, I'm not expecting a two hour long Slaughter-fest, I don't like watching films like that in any case, and just to re-iterate the point, I do like the original three films.

    But Episode I was just too sanitized, as I said very, very few losses that were not droids, at the risk of repetition a nice safe war with few people getting actually hurt. Very politically correct, very late 1990s, very dull.

    Hmm, easy to explain of you just understand the meaning of Jedi, these clonetroopers are all clones of 1 NORMAL man, a Jedi is not normal and therefore they can't be cloned, that would be a logical explenation!

    But the only thing that makes a Jedi able to channel the force and in any case anything other than a normal man are apparently these microbes. Clone a normal man, then give him an injection of cultured microbes, and there you can have an inexhaustable supply of new Jedi.

    The whole storyline just works better without this aspect, and the most frustrating thing is that it just wasn't needed in the first place.

    Did you forgot that he had ''the force'' with him and in the is future the most powerfull jedi on the galaxy..it was all meant to be

    So the better way to do this would have been to make it seem more like he was acting on instinct than just jabbing away at a console and getting lucky!

    It was to me a weak moment in a weak film.
     
  18. Canadian_Super_Patriot

    Canadian_Super_Patriot recruit

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2005
    Messages:
    2,579
    Likes Received:
    0
    via TanksinWW2
    It was sad at the end when anakin was burned and mutilated, and him turning to the dark side ultimitely killed his wife , because she lost the will to live , anakin had to turn bad to set the original 3 movies.
     
  19. Grieg

    Grieg New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2005
    Messages:
    2,625
    Likes Received:
    0
    via TanksinWW2
    I don't find any the films especially notable quality wise. Episode IV could lay claim to reinvigorating a genre in film making but aside from that shows it's low budget roots pretty badly. If there is a common thread IMO it is that the best films are the ones not directed by Lucas. Like episodes V and VI. The scripting and dialogue are pretty dreadful in Episode III but I think that has been true of all the prequels.
    Lucas makes a good producer as long as he has a talented director like Spielberg to handle the creative end as in Raiders of the Lost Ark.
    If you want to see a high quality SciFi film with good acting, stunning visuals and serious undertone message check out Blade Runner.
     
  20. Canadian_Super_Patriot

    Canadian_Super_Patriot recruit

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2005
    Messages:
    2,579
    Likes Received:
    0
    via TanksinWW2
    Star wars is just a good story plain and simple .
     

Share This Page