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The next generation of tanks

Discussion in 'Post-World War 2 Armour' started by Ebar, Nov 15, 2004.

  1. Ebar

    Ebar New Member

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    Any thoughts on what the next generation of Main Battle Tanks is likely to look like. What do people think the design priorities are likely to be in the future?
     
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    Lower cost.
    Higher Survivability.
    Enhanced 'stealth' (low heat sig, radar sig, EM etc).

    Obviously, 'lower cost' will go out the window - unless they make the tanks smaller, or decide not to bother with some of the other features.

    To draw a parallel - the F-22 Raptor.
    Cost: $2 billion for 10 ($200,000,000 each)
    Yes, it has stealth, speed (as much as is needed, according to the studies), advanced weaponry, advanced avionics, etc etc etc.
    However, only a few countries can afford it (like the USA, and possibly the UK will buy a few) and, in reality, why is it needed?
    The Eurofighter can do almost as good a job (one computer simulated mission gave the Eurofighter a 95% survival chance and the F-22 a 97% survival chance), for far less money (£40 billion for 620 - around £65,000,000 each - or [very roughly!] $103,000,000 each).
    Frankly, for the huge costs & development times involved, it does not offer such a huge advantage over its contemporaries. Yes, I know, any advantage is good in combat, but who will this plane be fighting?

    Britain? Unlikely - unless Bush gets muddled between the UK and the UAE.
    Any other European nation with front-line military jets? See Britain.
    The ex-USSR nations? Yes, upgraded MiG29s & Su27s will be tricky to deal with, and this is probably the main threat, should a war ever start. However, look at how many upgraded MiG29s & Su27s the Czech republic has, then look at how many F15, -16 & -18s the USA has.
    China? Certainly they have made great strides in technology recently...

    The main enemy for the US Armed Forces will be terrorists & third-world nations suspected of harbouring terrorists, or possessing WMDs, or of looking at Bush's pint in a funny way.

    That job could be handled by a bunch of P-47s.

    So, in conclusion -
    While I understand the need to have a better weapon than anybody else (or at least, anybody else that you won't sell yours to!), but is there a need to spend oodles & oodles on 'highly advanced' weapons that offer only slight advantages over current models?

    I reckon the next crop of tanks will have the overall look of the Challenger (low, lots of slope) and be packed with yet more electronics.
    Nothing more radical than a continuance of current trends, really.
     
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    Ah but what about mobility between different thearters? Even the Americans, who have by far the best airlift capacity, can't move Abramhams MBTs in useful numbers by air. Might there be a future for smaller lighter tanks? Any thoughts?
     
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    Besides the smaller and lighter tanks with air-lift capabilitites. There will still be place for the heavies I think. Probably turret-less to present a smaller target, operated by a smaller crew that is better-protected deep within the hull (in lieu of the turret), mount a larger gun (150mm)....
     
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    Or still have a turret, but the turret is only occupied by the auto-loader, and is therefore very small (this has been done on at least one test vehicle).
     
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    Smaller, cheaper, lighter, more mobile
     

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