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Discussion in 'World War 2' started by ray243, Dec 7, 2005.

  1. ray243

    ray243 New Member

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    What would happened if the axis powers really coordinate their war efforts like the allies did? Like attacking russia from both sides and not making the fall of singapore too early?

    I would mean russia would be caught on both fronts and either way their factories is still in danger if the japanese can managed to attack together and also if japan did not take singapore too soon, the resources sent to africa will be lesser and hence more chance for rommel to win the africa battle.
     
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    no that was not so easy first of all germany and japan had two diffrent straregys not so the allies and germany laid its industrial capacity mostly on the Army then AIrforce and at last the Navy in japan it was the exact opposite were the navy was favoriesed the japanese Army had only a small number of heavy tanks and howizers and they also lacked tank tactics they mostly digged in their tanks and used them as fixed armored artellery
    SO japans defence force was not capable of leading a great field war with a 1000 mile front Japans strength was at sea to conquer small islands and island groups with fast moving jungle proved soldiers with light equitment

    And japan had to expand in the pacific to get the oil fields in dutch indonesia and other important supplies wich east russia didnt have so singapor hong kong etc had to be taken early so that the supplie lines were not endangered
     
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    at least they could shell Vladivostok or place a lot of units at the Russian border so the sovjets would station a lot of divisions in Siberia. divisions who were used to counterattack the germans at Moscow and Stalingrad
     
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    correct japan would have nothin to gain economically from attacking russia...the only benefit would be to secure their northern flank..but as the russians were busy fighting the germans the japanese again had no need to strike.
     
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    I remember a debate I had over MSN with Desertwolf and Panzerman. They argued that if Japan had struck out at Russia in November/December 1941, that just may have been the last drop needed to topple the USSR as a whole, even if at any other moment in time there would have been little Japan could have done against Russia without crippling itself. Personally, I don't think the Japanese ground forces were up to even this task, though.
     
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    When they did attempt operations against the Russians, they got pounded.

    They could tie up the bulk of the Siberian divisions that were historically used in the counter-attack outside Moscow.

    They could attack after these troops are withdrawn to the West. And acheive what exactly? Capturing a few hundred square miles of Sibera?
    Remember that the IJA was already over-extended in China.

    That should really knock the CCCP for six...
     

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