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yeh like the last 1. i think thats a mosin nagant

 

They are both Nagants, the last one shows the Short side rail scope, wcih it most often would mount.

The Mosin Nagant couldnt mount the 8X Unerti scope wich the "Guy" says his Grandfather placed on it. So even there its total bolony..

KBO

 

Darn right! trained on the M1,then moved on to the M14 (devil the man that says a word againt them! hahahaha!) before that abortion known as the M16 became general issue !!! Hey did you guys know that certain Royal Navy vessels (e.g. "the "Ton" class minesweepers, well into the 1970s) carried sniper versions of the M1 Garand to detonate mines?
Up the rebels!...

 

Back to the original story:

How could an American soldier know about Russian tanks? I think only tanks an American soldier could know would be Tiger, Panther, Panzer IV, Stug and Sherman.

The new enemy tanks were often rather odd for soldiers.
When Russians launched a huge attack in Finland 9.6. 1944, Finns began to encounter JS-1 and JS-2. The were roughly similar (read: same size) to KV-1s, so Finns just named them KVs. There were many reported kills of KVs but actually they were JS's. Russians itself, after increasing number of Tigers, called every German tank Tigr or Tiger.

 

Why four enemy tanks and only one from their own side? Surely they would know the Stuart, for example, and the M36 Jackson TD that always helped them out...

The only probably answer to the question is that grandpa described them and the guy later distilled from that description which tanks they had been.

 

Or maybe they'd been taught to recognise Soviet tanks in anticipation of meeting them, so they didn't assume they were German?

I admit that such forethought & planing is unlikely in an army, but you never know!

 

Sorry Danyel. I am not so familiar with US tanks of that era.

 

Are you sure you didnt mean Roel ??

 

Excuse me. We get a little too wary of Germanism here sometimes and I guess I jumped too soon.

 

Ooops!

 

Some planning concerning friendly fire ( Russian tank identification) must have taken place. I read somewhere ( A Beevors book on Berlin 1945?) that Soviet tanks had a mark on them ( while line?) to help US airplanes ID them?

 

They had white bands crossing on top of the turret. Which suggests that the average Allied pilot needed some aid to identify them. Could be just because it´s harder to ID a tank from an aircraft. On the other hand; One British squadron had to paint a white and red striped pattern on the tails of their Mosquitos to avoid them being shot up by trigger-happy American fighter-jocks.

 

...and Blenheims were shot down by RAF fighters claiming Ju88s, at least one Spitfire squadron attacked a Geschwader of Bf109s (Which later turned out to be Hurricanes!) and Mustangs initially had an interesting time being bounced by Thunderbolts who thought anything with an inline engine and square wing tips was a Bf109!

Air to, well pretty much anything identification was notoriously difficult!

 

You know, frinedly fire... isn't

 

Corp, we said the same thing in the Corps! Y'know the difference between a fairy tale, and a sea story?

One starts with "Once upon a time..."

The other starts, "This is no shit!"

 

And the Typhoon featured black & white stripes on the wings before the whole 'D-Day invasion stripe' business, because it got confused with the Fw190! I always wonder how?
Maybe because it was the only Allied fighter at the time with a bubble canopy, like the Fw190 (inspired by the 190, alledgedly)...

 

Having just read this post

It dosnt work straight away. Simply u couldnt swim across the elbe river unless you were mark spitz or something, especailly not in full battle dress. The elbe is one of the largest rivers in northern europe and in april would be in full flow!

As for the rest esp about his uncle or woteva living in russia etc etc if someone told u this story in the pub you would tell them to *&£$ off!!

 

That seems to be the general consensus, the more times people read this story and the more individuals that actually read it, the more and more inaccuracies and weaknesses appear in it.

The clincher for me was when Danyel said that this individual also claimed his Grandfather destroyed a Tiger tank by throwing a grenade through the viewport (Thrown downwards from a three story building!!!)!

 

I sometimes get the impression that this guy's grandad was a character in a 'Battle' Annual!

 

Nah, these stories are just too far fetched even for that kind of thing!