Discussion in 'The War at Sea' started by Quillin, Nov 7, 2007.
nice computer animation of the famous battle.
You have to feel Sink the Bismarck would be a great film to remake with modern effects just as long as Hollywood 'revisionism' could kept out.
but remember that today's public do not want history, they want action, special effects and romance
I want history!
Well, that film has history, action and romance. And it even got nazis too. Add good special effects and you got a bestseller.
I couldn't agree more.That would be an awesome flick.
Indeed. But imagine the shock the audience would get when confronted by a cast that, lo and behold, can ACT! :wink:
The worst episodes of Dogfights were the ones dealing with naval topics. The CGI works a lot better with aircraft, and the details of a naval engagement are simply too much to ask.
Phrases like "largest warship afloat' and 'most powerful warship afloat' for Bismark (is either of those true?), and an overall slant that shows the British to be simply shooting away without effect while the Germans manage to 'closely miss'. And the fact that PoW actually hit Bismark is not mentioned until litrally the last few seconds.
I thought the Tripitz was bigger and stronger..
tirpitz was 3 meters longer than bismarck
tirpitz max displacement was 53,500
bismarck max displacement was 50,405
tirpitz had better AA and radar
Slipshod writing and poor research. I find it amazing how often I find so-called "documentaries" with a weak grasp of facts. :roll:
Largest warship afloat: For instance, Yamato was already launched thought not completed nor commissioned but definitely afloat at that time. Most powerful, well, not really. As much I hate to admit it but any of those full sized fleet carriers were more powerful. And some battleships were atleast as powerful as Bismarck.
The IOWA-class, for example. Or the NORTH CAROLINAs.
At the point in time being discussed, Iowa had no guns, so she's probably not as powerful. The NCs were not yet operational because of their prolonged post-commission remedial work.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Hood longer than the Bismark (though displaced less)?
Hood was longer and skinnier and about 1000 tons heavier in "standard" condition--which of course was a fiction. The Lexingtons were even longer. So who was most powerful...?
The answer would likely depend on who you asked.
Let us look at the armour and compare the guns. Bismarck would probably have better armour and better/modern guns. So, based on those two factors, yes, bismarck was the most powerfull ship during that battle.
Remake of "Sink the Bismarck" would indeed be nice and we can even give everything that hollywood wants like big explosions, drama as we look at the wounded men on the ships, heroism on board of the ships, a grand finale where the good guys shoot apart the "bad" germans. Hell, we even can fit in a love story at the scenes in naval headquarters. Although i think that holywood wants to combine drama and love together in this style:
British sailor on the PoW finds out his letter-girlfriend (the love of his life) from germany works on board of the Bismarck. + this scenario even has the famous "Hollywood and history don't go together" thing in it. (there were no women on board of ships)
Nope the Hollywood version would involve the Battleship Bismark (note Bismark NOT Bismarck, we don't want to confuse and frighten cinema goers with foreign words) on a mission to bombard the San Andreas Fault there by destroying silicon valley. Only one man can save the day: President Roosevelt (played by Russel Crowe) who must destroy Bismark and rescue his daughter.
The film opens with Roosevelt para dropping onto Bismarks quarter deck. Cutting his way through thousands of Nazis with his trusty six shooter (firing gangster style of course) and pausing only to mutter 'I'm getting too old for this shit' Roosevelt reaches the Battleships bridge, and there finds Adolf Hitler himself (play by Alan Rickman). In a climatic marshal arts fight, Roosevelt and Hitler battle for the fate of the free world.
With Hitler thrown down the battleships funnel Roosevelt and his daughter dive into a handy lifeboat only seconds before Bismarks nuclear reactor explodes.
Expect to see BISMARK II, Tirpitz Revenge to reach cinemas summer 2009.