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Was Bismarck a bad investment?

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  1. Tiornu

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    You don't have to imagine it. You can see what it actually was.
     
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    From what I've read, part of the Spitfire problem was self inflicted - production was going to stop at 300 and the Castle Bromwich plant would have made bombers instead so Supermarine actually slowed down production to keep work going.

    http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/UN/UK/U ... ion-2.html

    This whole 'book' makes for intresting reading but look at Chapter 2 page 4 of 38.

    Anyone know how accurate these Hyperwar documents are - here are some additional ones

    http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/UN/UK/U ... index.html

    http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/

    http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/USA ... html#index
     
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    I wasn't aware that BISMARCK sank any destroyers. Which DD are you referring to?
     
  4. Tiornu

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    Mashona was sunk by bombers after breaking off from the Bismarck engagement. Likewise, Bismarck did not shoot down any aircraft, but a couple carrier planes went missing during the chase.
    The replenishment ships that the Germans lost were not taken by the ships that actually fought Bismarck (as far as I know) but were tracked down individually on the basis on excellent intelligence work.
     
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    There were also a few Swordfish that were right-offs from flak damage. One Swordfish returned to Ark Royal with over 170 holes in her wings and fuselage another staggered home minus her floor.
     
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    "another staggered home minus her floor."
    I had a car like that once.
     
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    If it hadn't sunk :wink:
     
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    So BISMARCK didn't sink any DDs herself. In the motion picture "Sink the BISMARCK", she is shown sinking HMS SOLENT. Was there a British destroyer by that name in WW2, and if so, what was her fate?
     
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    There was british submarine named HMS SOLENT during WW2. Apparently she wasn't sunk.
    http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3475.html
     
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    They're very good. It's a serious academic project, much of the info is dated official output, but still very good.
     
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    Thanks for the information, Notmi. That settles that. :D
     
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    Solent is kind of a weird choice for a destroyer name. There have been only three Solents in RN history, none a destroyer. And the only "S" class destroyers in service in 1941 were oldies leftover from WWI and serving in secondary sectors.
     
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    Well, to an American like me, the Brits have always tended to give their DDs rather odd names, so having one named SOLENT wasn't really a stretch. :wink:
     
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    HMS ocean nowt wrong with it, perfect name for a ship. :grin:
     
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    The RN sometimes used really great names (Ark Royal, Triumph) and sometimes some really poor names (Gay Bruiser, Pansy).
     
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    And not forgetting some pompous names RN used: Indefatigable, Invincible, Indomitable and Inflexible to name few.
     
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    When you're really bored some time, grab a sheet of paper and list the ships that might have been in a set of eight British "X" class destroyers. Hey, they did all the other letters, why not "x"? Actually I think they also skipped "y" as well, so feel free....
     
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    HMS Xenophobia gets my bet! :wink:
     
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    For a truly hard name you can't beat the mighty FLOWER class corvettes. :D
     
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    This is true. Imagine having to tell people that your ship is HMS PANSY or TULIP or CHRYSANTHEMUM...

    :wink:
     

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