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what counts for a ship to be WW2?

Discussion in 'The War at Sea' started by Ome_Joop, Oct 24, 2005.

  1. Ome_Joop

    Ome_Joop New Member

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    If a ship is laid down before WW2, builded at WW2 and finished after WW2....is it still a WWII ship?
    What counts for a ship to be WW2????

    Thanks to Quilin for this question! :D
     
  2. Quillin

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    oh no, now we can have a big discussion about that. :lol:

    i say, if it sailed during 1939 and 1945, it's a WW2 ship
     
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    true...but shouldn't ships that were laid down before that period, built on during that period...altough not finnished during that period also belong to that catogory?

    What about ships that were finnished before 1939...HMS Hood for instance was a ship wich originated out of WWI(laid down on 31 May 1916)...but still is a WWII ship...altough not a true WWI ship
     
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    Hood sailed between 1939 & 1945, so is a WW2 ship.
    Well, ok, so it stopped sailing before 1945, but you get what I mean!

    It is like tanks - the Centurion is not strictly a WW2 tank, as none got to the front before the war stopped.
     
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    difficult question isnt it
     
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    The HMS Hood? becouse if it is it had a little run in with the Bismark and got blasted :bang:
     
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    don't forget that she took part in the destuction of the french fleet in Mers El Kebir (a place in north africa)
     
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    A little sensitivity is in order here out of respect for our British friends. That ship was the pride of the RN and it's loss was a painful one for the Brits. Not to mention the fact that 1400 men died :(
     
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    just a case of bad luck. i that shell missed a couple meters she wouldn't been blow up
     
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    That and the (something) oak, sunk by a u-bout in port
     
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    Back to topic!

    So to be a WWII Ship or tank wathever there is also the requirement that it needs to have been on the front?
    Does this mean that training vessels/tanks are not considered WWII era?
     
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    The HMS Royal Oak, however I think this old Battleship, like HMS Barham, was not that really hard loss for the brits.
    Nevertheless I feel sry for the young sailors, who lost their lifes so early. :cry:
     
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    Did the brits have any battleships left after WW2 ? , they lost the hood , the bahram, 2 on their way to singapore. And Im not sure , but another one may have sunk.
     
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    Royal Navy had 15 big gun capital ships at start of WW2:
    5 R-class battleships, 5 Queen Elisabeth-class battleships, Nelson, Rodney, Repulse, Renown and Hood.

    British completed 5 new battleships during WW2 and one just after WW2:
    5 ships of KGV-class and HMS Vanguard.

    RN lost following battleships during WW2: HMS Royal Oak, HMS Barham, HMS Prince of Wales.
    Besides these, they lost two battlecruisers; HMS Repulse (together with PoW) and HMS Hood (if we consider Hood a BC).

    Therefore, when WW2 was over, RN had 14 capital ships (HMS Royal Sovereign was loaned to SU) and one was about to be completed.
     
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    Was Royal Sovereign actually ever actively in service with the soviet navy?
     
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    WW2 Ships

    These are World War 2 :wink:

    Liberty ship
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    And in the hold!
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    USS Pampanito
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    Closer
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    (All copyright now they are published, see!! I did do something usefull on my hols...LOL)
     
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    I vaguely remember reading somewhere that she did escort some convoys at Barents Sea but I'm not sure.
     
  19. Ricky

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    No, no, it has to have been in service in its intended role during WW2.

    For example, the Tiger Moth is a 1930s plane, but counts as WW2 as it was the RAF's principle basic training aircraft.

    The P-80 was flying by the end of WW2, but not operationally, so is not really a WW2 plane.
     
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    OK...
    btw i thought the US had 3 or so P-80's flying sorties in Italy...
     

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