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What if the industrialization of Russia never took place

Discussion in 'What If - European Theater - Eastern Front & Balka' started by Ironcross, Nov 5, 2006.

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  1. Ironcross

    Ironcross Dishonorably Discharged

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    "We are fifty or a hundred years behind the advanced countries. We must make good this distance in ten years. Either we do it, or we shall be crushed." -Joe
     
  2. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    No T-34, no KV-1. End of the USSR.
     
  3. ANZAC

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    And you know how that industrialization probably came about?

    Courtesy of Wilham 2 and the Germans in WW1, so Germany lost WW2 by the mistake they made in losing WW1.
     
  4. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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    No USSR, no nothing, just an empty waste with some settlements here and there along the waterways, colonized by the Teutonic Order.

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  5. Iroh

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    hey where you get that toy Za i want to buy it .
     
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    Makes me wonder : "What if all the people in USSR just forgot to breathe during one night in mid june 1941 ?"
     
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    :D :D

    Yes, a pretty silly "what-if" if you ask me.......... Here is one, What if Russia just simply didnt exist?.........Im sure that would have made Hitler's job easier....
     
  8. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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    Still on the bash-the-Russians theme, and what if the Russians only had broccoli and beans to eat on the eve of the Berlin assault, would that guarantee a final German victory or would they accuse the Russians of using gas warfare?

    :D
     
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    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Y'all are killing me :fwap::dance4::dance3::dance1::pelvicthruster:

    But you are right.
     
  10. 3ball44

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    Of course, they would be completely screwed. Without the industrialization of Russia, Barbarrosa would have succeeded just as Hitler had planned, and Russia would be out of the WW2 picture by 1942. Germany would gain access to valuable resources, and the blitzkrieg would still appear unstoppable.
    After this, any number of things could have happened.
    Hitler may have tryed some crazy invasion of the UK, which most likely would fail.
    He may have instead sent more troops and resources to Africa, depending on how early in 1942 they were able to finish off Russia.
    Or I suppose the Germans may have tryed to continue expanding into Asia.
    Most likely, England would become the next primary target.
     
  11. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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    And what if the industrialization of the USA never took place? Or Germany's? Or Botswana's?
     
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    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    You shouldn't have brought Botswana into the discussion. That changes everything. But wait, was Botswana industrialized by WWII or were they still building the famed PpYrs 6-B "Paper Tiger" tank during that time? ;)
    I heard that one village donated all their used Chinese take-out boxes, saved over a period of 3 years, to produce one and it was named for the daughter of the village chieftan. I can't find a reference for it, but I heard about it on the History Channel, so I know it is a fact.
     
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    What-if the industrialization of this thread never took place? :D
     
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    Mussolini Gaming Guru WW2|ORG Editor

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    Well since the 'Hitler' Channel told you so, it must be true!
     
  15. 3ball44

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    I tryed to spark this thread into something worth-while, but I see now that it is beyond repair.

    :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
     
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    No worries friend, many more to come :D
     
  17. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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    3ball, I'm sorry but the initial premise was already without redemption. Might as well argue what-if Germany had stayed in the Stone Age, it would be a premise just as valid. That is, absurd.
     
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