What is the best WW2 Movie ?

24000/55000= ?

ok you are off by more than by 67 %

>55.000 US-Soldiers were killed

BTW- Geramny lost fewer soldiers on DDay than the Allies- so by your measure they one that one also huh?

 

You are wrong the US_Army lost 33.000 men (dead).

Pfff...tactical yes and strategical no


Cheers

 

In February 1945 the 82nd Airborne followed a retreating German army through the forest. The 505th PIR got into the town of Schmidt, which had changed hands many times during the battle. The history of the 505th noted that "throughout Sicily, Italy, Normandy and Holland this unit has seen the devastation of war, but never anything to compare with this. There were tanks, tank destroyers, jeeps, 2-ton trucks, other vehicles and all sorts of GI equipment as well as countless American dead. It was no wonder the men referred to this as death valley."


>In February 1945 the 82nd Airborne followed a retreating German army


yep an amazing German victory

 

The 82nd was on the offensive by January 1945. The Division moved through Belgium and the Hurtgen Forest, penetrated the Seigfried Line, and arrived at the Roer River by February.

victory?

 

haha :kill:

Well, it was tactical retreatment to regroup in russia, but unfortunately russia had other intentions.

No, probably not. But may everythin´you´ve mention is american propaganda, i don´t believe you

 

to be fair

"For us the Hurtgen was one of the most costly, most unproductive, and
most ill-advised battles that our army has ever fought." --Gen. James
Gavin, Commander, 82nd Airborne Division, 1944-1945

"The German Command could not understand the reason for the strong
American attacks in the Hurtgen Forest...the fighting in the wooded
area denied the American troops the advantages offered them by their
air and armored forces, the superiority of which had been decisive in
all the battles waged before." -- Generalmajor von Gersdorff, Chief of
Staff, German 7th Army, 1944-1945


to be fair....

Ill concieved, bloody, and a loss of too many lives..

But like DDay- the objectives were taken

 

welll...

What battles did Germany win after Kasserine?

The 82nd took the Roer...through the Hurtgen...

Propaganda..

OK- what facts have we missed?

 

Villers bocage???

I think there are a few battles in normandy, which were lost by the allies??

 

hmmm Cobra

But go ahead..

Make your point

 

Villers bocage

Brits vs Germans

 

Cobra?? Wasn´t Cobra successful?

Well, there aren´t any "real" lost battles. May Operation "Goodwood", however they had large casulties, but they had also won. So there only local victorys in "small" battles for the german army, but nothin´ which could have changed the war.

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*Oh, Goodwood too, sry

hmm, no sry, as you said before there are no real losses.

Oh wait, in Band of Brothers (part 4) is a small village "neunen" and there germany won, but it´s just a small local victory.*

 

Well Good Wood was a Brit operation..

I think the werhmacht was a good army, tough...etc..

They kinda remind me of the South in the American civil war..

Overwelmed by manpower and more equipment....

 

I mentioned Cobra in reference to bocage, Cobra was the breakout of the Bocage..


One German vet I met, told me the Americans reminded him of ants, death by a thousand stings. Always moving men and equipment forward, building roads, trucks of stuff..

 

Thx, I respect them unlike many other german people.

 

well of course you cant say Americans won every encounter

The 106th Division was overwelmed by the ?5th? Panzer army in the Ardennes

Heck one newbie (green) division ..

Against all that..

I would have messed my pants..

PS Gavin, the commander of the 82nd would took the Hurgen- did not consider it a 'victory' really- the objective was taken, we advanced..

At what cost...

a sad commentary really

 

Stalingrad is the best war film i had ever seen

 

Actually the Division was overwhelmed by two equally green German Volksgrenadier divisions, the 62nd and 18th, one of which had only weeks before been organized oput of Kriegsmarine personell...

The Americans lost many local battles and engagements but never a major battle or campaign.

 

The longest day is the most interesting

 

i'm more for the older movies like "the devils brigade", "the dirty dozen", "raid on rommel", "the eagle has landed" and "where the eagles dare"
funny is, in a copple of those movies, the allies are running all around with MP 40's like in "the dirty dozen"

 

The germans didn't win many battles after Kasserine but they came close and many times the allies took a bigger beating than the germans did.