No LJAd, ANZAC is not making the classic mistake of being fixated on the Soviet losses, anymore then you being fixated on German losses, I'm going by the comments made by both Soviet commanders after the loss of the six armies before Moscow at Vyazma/Briansk. Both Koniev & Zhukov, after personally inspecting the front said they had no way of stopping the Germans period. THEN, before the battles ended, the 'Rasputitsa' turned good tank ground into this....... File:Bundesarchiv Bild 101I-289-1091-26, Russland, Pferdegespann im Schlamm.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia They say a picture is worth a thousand words. Adam Tooze in 'Wages of Destruction' [IIRC you once said you've read & recommended him, even though he's a bit dated now I guess] says quote...'On the 8th of October the Autumn rains began, within days the entire central sector of the German army was turned into an IMPASSABLE QUAGMIRE!' Kershaw gives a vivid account of the push on Moscow through the muck, often from the ordinary soldiers perspective, it's well worth a look. Don't get me wrong, the final battles for Moscow were obviously won by the unbreakable will of the average Soviet GI, I have nothing but admiration for the millions who sacrificed their lives to finally stop the Nazis. But for a few weeks after Vyazma/Briansk the Soviets were desperate & needed time to hustle up enough men to do the job, & thats when a combination of Rasputitsa & poor roads came in. On Erickson, personally I think anyone who's interested in the Eastern front must have his books on their shelf, he's still the man that most currant writers still turn to for info [including Tooze.] BTW have you read Erickson's companion pieces 'The Road to Stalingrad & 'The Road to Berlin'?