Admin Edit: This What If was split off from an existing discussion. Normally, new Alternative History threads have to be approved before they are released for discussion. Please keep that in mind as you introduce new alternative threads/posts and place them in the correct location, please. I agree that Finland needed basically everything so any help, Italian or not, is good. So what is at the top of the list ? Italian aircrafts are likely to reach Finland at the latest because of just flying under permission from Germany and Finland with refuelling at airstrips. The SU was a large nation; even German generals and senior miliarty leadership voiced great concern for that Fuhrer venture. How can we in 2015 expect that Finland as a small nation in military prowess turned the Red tide, let alone any reinforcement or 3 divisions ? This expectation is unrealistic. However, So let assume in alternative history FInland wanted to achieve following political aims (thus up for discussion): 1) readdress the balance and recontrol the lost territories in the Winter War 2.1) enter East Karelia/Karelian Republic 2.2) reach the White Sea coast 3) Establish the border of Isthumuses 4) take Murmansk and cutting off Allies supply from Western Europe through coasts in Sápmi Taking Murmansk is the most difficult because the occupation likely gives the Allies in the West pretexts for their own political aims, in favor of Soviet or not. Winter War showed Finland barely able to withstand one great military Soviet power, which one or more Allies in the West joins is definitely an endgame. Recontrolling lost territories was achievable. Taking EK/KR was partially achieved. With Italian help, could the joint forces reached the coast and take the whole EK/KR ? The idea of Bulgarian miiddleman overture based on scant sources could achieve #3 if this option is expanded in scope. If Finland achieve these two miliary and political aims on the low tide of Soviet might in late 1941 and early 1942, can Italian forces be of any help ? Both Finland and Italian had significant agrarian population background but Italian industries manufactured their own military machines in larger quantity than Finland. Were Finnish AFV at that time either purchased, refitted or reconditioned from usable parts of destroyed or non-functionable vehicles ? Let me put this idea in a larger picture. If Italian industries in economic difficulties after ww1 expands into other markets in Eastern Europe to fill some void from collapsed Imperial Russia and Austro-Hungary control of market, can both Finland and Italy, and other non great European powers benefit from more cooperation? Why must Finland need mostly German help, before the Winter War? In a tank, Finland could use 1) Czech chasis with Finnish designed wider tracks 2) Swedish armor and Bofors 37 mm refitted for turret 3) Italian and Finnish design for tank interior and crew; for example, two machine gun slits that allow most infantry machine guns be easily mounted or dismounted; 4 men crew in driver, loader/rear infantry machine gunner, main gunner, radio operator/commander/front infantry machine gunner 4) American Christie suspension if possible Would this imagined Finnish tank be manufactuted for Italian and Finnish land forces. Maybe it is like a Stridsvagn m/40 with LT vz. 38 chasis and Bofors 37 mm antitank gun. Given how Finnish military leadership managed the Winter War, this 4 men crew 37mm-vz38-m/40 may at least take out BT tanks in the Winter War. After this war, 37mm-vz38-m/40 with reverse engineered Christie suspension from capture BT tanks are built in Finland and Italy. Can this new tank 37mm-vz38-Christie-m/40 in Finnish forces, Italian tanks and tankettes, along with captured KV1's achieve some kind of blitz warfare in achieving political aim#2 ?