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WW2 Italian Submarines

Discussion in 'The War at Sea' started by Hoosier phpbb3, Nov 15, 2006.

  1. Hoosier phpbb3

    Hoosier phpbb3 New Member

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    A rather vague subject for me.
    How effectively did the Italians use their Sub-fleet in the Second World War?
    What were their greatest victories/sinkings?

    Tim
     
  2. Tiornu

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    A friend of mine, a former officer in the Italian Navy, referred to the WWII subs as "offensive buoys."
     
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    LMAO :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
     
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    What does LMAO means?

    The Italians shifted some submarines to Bordeaux (France) to assist the germans with the Battle for the Atlantic.
     
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    LMAO = Laugh My Ass/Arse Off
     
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    hey tim,

    the best site if you are interessted in italian subs, you will find anything from profiles to all sinkings and Betasom. BETASOM was the codename for
    italian operations in the antlantic. 32 it. subs fight alongside with the german Ubootwaffe and ther were some CO´s, who sunk 30.000 to 50.000 BRT, some achieved even larger numbers, like 100.000 tons.

    http://www.regiamarina.net/subs/actions ... sub_us.asp


    the british cruiser HMS Calypso was sunk in 1940 by the Italian submarine Bagnolini.In August 1942 the italian sub Axum sunk the british AA-cruiser HMS Cairo, which took part in the Operation Pedestal. The italian subs Guglielmotti, Tricheco, Granito, Bianchi, Pier Capponi, Salpa, Jantina, Porfido, Ammiraglio St.Bon, Medusa, Remo, Acciaio, Pietro Micca, Vellela were sunk by british subs in the MTO.

    It´s only a small part of their history ;)


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    Regards,
    Che.
     
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    Nice Pic. Those subs are quite big.
     
  9. Hoosier phpbb3

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    Great photo Che.
    Impressive-looking submarines at a glance. 'Sounds as though they did inflict some damage to the Allies, eh?
    I appreciate the responses...

    Tim
     
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    in a book i read once it says most italian sub crews wouldnt attack a convoy if it had a few escoert ships
     
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    in addition, the ital. sub Ambra sunk the british cruiser HMS Bonaventure in 1941 south of Crete (139 lost).

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    Regards,
    Che.
     
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    And poor BONAVENTURE was, IIRC, the only British warship to be sunk by an Italian sumarine. Kinda adds insult to injury. :cool:
     
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    I took a quick look and found the following RN combatants destroyed by Italian subs: Escort, Triad, Cairo, Algerine, Samphire, MGB 641. Also, the grounded Havock was finished off.
     
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    [​IMG]

    Also - as is mentioned in the link I just posted - the silhouette of these subs over the waterline is very high compared to - say - a U-Boat - they stick out like a sore thumb. Unless there is some other reason why these are so high in the water - anyone ?
     
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    Maybe they are unloaded. Lets take that they can take 16 torpedo's, each torpedo weighing 800 kilo's that makes almost 13 tons of weight. Do the same for fuel, shells, and food supplies and you get a couple tons more weigh when they are loaded.
     
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    A lot of Italian subs were modified with smaller towers to reduce their obvious silhouettes.
     
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    I wonder what the Germans who did the work thought of the Italian subs?
     

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