Here are a couple more for the UK and South Africa, Howell Automatic Rifle Calibre: .303 in Rifling & Twist: 5 Groove, Enfield, LH Barrel Length: 25.2 in (640mm) Overall Length: 44.5 in (1130mm) Approx. Weight: 11 lb 12 oz (5.3kg) Magazine Capacity: 10 or 20 rounds Converted: Base Workshops The Howell Automatic Rifle was developed during the first World War in Britain, and reappeared early in the second as a means of conversion to automatic weapons for issue to Home Guard and for anti-aircraft use. Conversion to a Howell was permanent and could only fire in full automatic. http://www.darkminds.com/~drake/junk/Howell.gif Reider Automatic Rifle Calibre: .303 in Rifling & Twist: 5 Groove, Enfield, LH Barrel Length: 25.2 in (640mm) Overall Length: 44.5 in (1130mm) Approx. Weight: 11 lb 8 oz (5.2kg) Magazine Capacity: 10, 25 or 30 rounds Converted: The Castle, Capetown The South African Reider Automatic Rifle was produced in 1940-1941 and was a more modular design which could be 'dropped in' to the rifle and later removed without harming the rifle - the bolt was not modified. The last conversions made in mid-1941 were of a more refined design but the whole concept was shelved in 1941 when nobody particularly wanted to adopt the rifle attachment. The Reider was also capable of semi-auto fire. Howard Francis Self-Loading Carbine Calibre: 7.63mm Mauser Rifling & Twist: 5 Groove, Enfield, LH Barrel Length: 12.75 in (324mm) Overall Length: 32 in (812mm) Approx. Weight: 8 lb 1.5 oz (3.7kg) Magazine Capacity: 12 rounds Converted: Prototype Only A very interesting one is the Howard Frances Self-Loading Carbine, a conversion from a No. 1 Mk III SMLE to the 7.63mm Mauser pistol cartridge. It fired in semi-automatic only. Suffered some feeding and extraction problems and, despite meeting accuracy and soundness of design concept, never made it past prototype stage. Very light and very short little carbine." http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/i.../t-106474.html An Australian version of the Charlton was also produced, the Charlton Automatic Rifle, SMLE Model
How about the , Model 1911 Carbine ("K11") [SIZE=-2] [/SIZE] Barrel Length - 23.3 inches: 4-groove, RH, concentric rifling, 1 in 10.63 Overall Length - 43.6 inches Weight - 8.85lbs empty Action - Schmidt-Rubin Straight Pull Caliber - 7.5x55 Swiss (GP11) Capacity - 6 round detachable box magazine Sights - Tangent-leaf sight graduated to 1500m Total Production : 185,150 Bayonet: Models 1892 Spike Bayonet, 1899, 1918, 1906 Pioneer (Sawback) and 1914 Pioneer (Sawback) Produced concurrently with the 1911 Rifle, the 1911 Carbine replaced both the Short Rifle and Calvary Carbine. While production of the 1911 rifle stopped in 1919, Carbine production continued until 1933 with some 184,000 Carbines being produced.
[FONT="]Yes, they are Photoshop for sure. Since I am not excluding the unusual prototype weapons from my list, I just wonder if the they ever attempt to make prototypes like that, it just seem logical. [/FONT]
Just added the following; Page W18 - Knorr-Remse Assault Rifle Page W51 - Reider Automatic Rifle Page W55 - Ljungman AG-42 The AG-42 was sitting at the Modern weapon section all along by mistake, sorry! Page W56 - Schmidt Rubin K11 Not yet find usable photos for the Howell Automatic Rifle or the Howard Francis Self-Loading Carbine, anyone got photos?
Great, thank you JCFalkenbergIII! Just added; Page W30 - Howell Automatic Rifle So now we just need the Howard Francis Self-Loading Carbine. Also, anyone have a picture of the Australian version of the Charlton Automatic Rifle? BTW, can anyone put a name on this thing?
That's a Chalton semi auto rifle posted by JC Falkenberg 111 on the British Rifle thread on this site. Has anyone noticed the barrel on the thompson behind the Howell A R in JCFalkenbergIII post #51.
you might try asking at MUSEUM they were very helpful when I was trying to identify my dad's souvenir / deer rifle.
OK, according to this site, that is WWI vintage. REME Weapons Collection - Automatic and Self-Loading Rifles Weapon No 71 Rifle .303 inch Mk III (Experimental Self-Loading) [FONT="]One of the early attempts to convert the No 1 rifle to semi-automatic action during the First World War. Although it appears a rather clumsy attempt, it shows all the same fundamental characteristics as the modern types. Anyway, just added 2 more [/FONT] Page W36 - Australian Charlton Semi-auto Rifle Page W38 - Charlton Automatic Rifle Mk2 [FONT="]Now, just need the [/FONT]Howard Francis Self-Loading Carbine.
LuKa Go to British Rifle thread #24 I think that is the New Zealand Charlton and same thread #29 is probably the Australian version, the reason the Australian did not need it is because they set up their own Bren faciity at Lithgow.