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Discussion in 'Small Arms and Edged Weapons' started by luka, Nov 21, 2007.

  1. JCFalkenbergIII

    JCFalkenbergIII Expert

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    Some more.

    Spain
    Alfa light machinegun 1943
    "The Alfa is a gas-operated machine-gun designed in Spain during the Second World War when their stock of machine-guns required replacement, and no outside source was available. It was originally chambered for the 7.92 mm Mauser cartridge, but in 1955 a new model was put into service using the 7.62 mm NATO cartridge. The Alfa has a rate of fire of 800 rounds-per-minute. Production of the Alfa ceased in 1962."
    Used by Egypt also from 1952-1962

    Turkey
    Hotchkiss MA4/Model 1922 7.92mm light machinegun

    Greece
    Hotchkiss M1926 Light machine gun

    Finland
    Sampo L41 machinegun

    More Finn weapons here too
    FINNISH ARMY 1918-1945: WEAPONS FINNISH ARMY ALMOST HAD IN WORLD WAR 2, PART 1
     
  2. luka

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    How much are the Greek Hotchkiss M-1926, Spanish Hotchkiss M-1925, and the Turkish Hotchkiss M-1922 different from the French Mle.1922? I mean beside they chambered for different rounds.

    Anyone got pictures?
     
  3. luka

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    Didn't have much luck finding pictures for the Spanish Alfa 1943 either, can anyone help?
     
  4. JCFalkenbergIII

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    IIRC the Turkish MA4 was able to be belt fed,magazine fed or used the Hotchkiss feed tray. Only a few were only sold to Greece and Turkey . Th only pic I have is from one of my books. But I have no scanner :(.
     
  5. JCFalkenbergIII

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    LOL I meant the M1944. I think perhaps one of our Spanish members could help?
     
  6. JCFalkenbergIII

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    There was also the Hotchkiss Export Model/M1909/Portative/Benet-Mercie Machine Rifle. I believe they were still in armory reserves in Belgium in 1939 and were used then.

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  7. razin

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    View attachment 5263

    The attachment is the text for the Charlton in Small Arms of the World by E C Ezell. which is a revison of the classic work by W H B Smith.

    It would seem that the N Z Charltons were modified Long magazine Lee Enfield these were weapons normally used for reserve forces -even back in WW1 the SMLE became standard about 1911. The photo I posted is I think the SMLE australian version with the small magazine, as I said previously there is no real need in Asutralia for a modifed rifle as they had their own Brens.

    New Zealand had a perceived need for the modified Charlton as it was at the end of the supply line. I reckon that it was probably only used for home defence and I have a feeling that the New Zealand versions may have been produced in Australia at Electrolux (that is why it's taken a few days to reply I've been looking for further information on line.)

    One final thing re-the Charlton I recall one of the first Films made in New Zealand under the Government tax sponsorship scheme was about an out backs man who goes "walkabout" when the government requires him to hand in his SMLE due to the shortage of military rifles in N.Z. in early 1942.

    With regard to the M1909 posted above by JC FalkenbergIII. This weapon was used by the U.K. in the first part of WW2 -it had been the armament of some British tanks in WW1.

    There is also a nice photo of a Norwegian Colt 1917 (29T) on J.C Falkenberg III post on Railways in WW2.

    Steve
     

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  8. luka

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    Nice scan, thank you!

    However, what I really what to see is the description they put on this picture.

    View attachment 5076
     
  9. luka

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    BTW, Just added the following;

    Page W13 Finland – Sampo L41
    Page W16 France – Hotchkiss M-1909 Portative
    Page W28 Greece – Hotchkiss M-1926 / EPK Pyrkal
    Page W33 GB – Vicker Berthier Mk III
    Page W41 Hungary – 35M
    Page W54 Spain – Hotchkiss M-1914B / M-1922/25

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  10. JCFalkenbergIII

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    Nice to see that I was able to add some to the list :). Ill keep looking for more.
     
  11. razin

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    Caption for photo is
    Charlton was lead engineer for the Owen SMG built at Lysaghts Newcasle NSW, this evidently efected the production of the Charlton semi auto- in effect Charlton moved on to more important work.
     
  12. luka

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    04/05/2009 Update

    Page W57 --> Sweden - FM44
    Page W59 --> Switzerland - M-43/44 SMG
    Page WH08 --> Switzerland - Tankbüchse Tb.41
     
  13. luka

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    04/25/2009 Update

    Page W52 --> Poland - Wz 38M
     
  14. zippo

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    Alfa Model 44

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  15. luka

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    Anyone know a German rifle called Mauser M36 MkIII?

    Some guy asked me to add it to the web page, and I have no idea what so ever! Can anybody help?

    BTW, the new address of the web page is
    WWII

    Thanks!
     
  16. Jerome

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    I checked Ian Hogg's Infantry weapons of WW2 - no mention within. I note there is a modern M63 "tankler" Mauser. Could the model number be a typo?
     
  17. luka

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    Here's the request I received, and I did added the STA-1924, but have no idea what that Mauser is. I couldn't find it in any of my reference books either!

     
  18. lwd

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    Not sure if this helps or is old news. They seem to have been an export or non German made Mauser. Here are some links I found:
    belgian m1936 mauser stock band m36 1936 : Small Parts at GunBroker.com
    YouTube - Swedish Mauser 1942 Husqvarna m/36 6.5X55mm
    m36
    I saw one poster refering to an M36 on this thread. I only looked on the first page and wasn't clear which one he was refering to
    Mausers, Only Mausers
    There's a Swedish one pictured down a ways on this page:
    used_military_rifles
    Hope this is of some use.
     
  19. luka

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    Here's what another guy wrote me. Have anyone got a picture of it?

     

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