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Discussion in 'Small Arms and Edged Weapons' started by Hufflepuff, Feb 18, 2008.

  1. mac_bolan00

    mac_bolan00 Member

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    you should have it dated. if it predates the beretta 92, then it is rare. after ww1, gun buffs brought back lugers and discovered they made excellent trail and hunting sidearms. what could be weirder than a cowboy or a mountain man holding a luger?
     
  2. Commander of the F.S.

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    My big question is how come you guys don't say any thing about the FG-42 paratrooper rifle used by few German paratroopers
     
  3. JCFalkenbergIII

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    Its mentioned in posts #10 and #11.
     
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    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    How much amnunition did you try to carry at any given time?

    Did the bipod tend to hang up in foliage or were you getting rid of weight on the end of the barrel? or both?
     
  5. Commander of the F.S.

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    I read in a World War 2 small arms book and the MG-42 is like the US M-60 is that true:ac_me262::_achtung:
     
  6. statue1

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    I have fired:
    P-08
    P38
    Broom Handle Mauser
    Colt 1911
    Garand
    M1 Carbine
    MP 40
    Thompson
    98K
    And they all rock, although I love the Broom Handle.
    If your ever in Las Vegas you can go to a number of ranges and rent FULL AUTO weapons to give a spin.
     
  7. Hufflepuff

    Hufflepuff Semi-Frightening Mountain Goat

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    I have heard about this too; you have to admit that they look somewhat similar, even if they are in detail completely different.
     
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  8. Tony Williams

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    It depends on what you mean by "like". As you say, they look similar but the only technical resemblance IIRC is the belt feed mechanism, which was copied from the MG 42. The M60's operating mechanism was I believe copied from the FG 42.
     
  9. Commander of the F.S.

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    Is the Russian RPG-7 or the American LAW like the German Panzerfaust? I like the look of the panzerfaust and Panzersherck
     
  10. JCFalkenbergIII

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    IIRC the replacable barrel was another MG-42 feature that was similar between the two.
     
  11. Hufflepuff

    Hufflepuff Semi-Frightening Mountain Goat

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    The RPG-7 is more like the Panzerfaust, becasue it has a front-fed rocket and the LAW not. However, the Panzerfaust and the LAW are similar in that they are both one-time-use weapons, that have one shot only.

    I recently made a homemade "Panzerschreck" out of PVC tubing and wood (yes, I know).
     
  12. Tony Williams

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    Do you mean the specific locking mechanism? Quick-change barrels predated the MG 42 (the Bren and its predecessors, for instance).
     
  13. JCFalkenbergIII

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    No. Just the similarity between the two having the ability to be able to.
     
  14. Lt Fox

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    Well i have ...well my dad has a PPSH ....and i used a clip on it and i love it because of the Recoil and the amount of it that shoots...At first youll feel the push back but then you start getting the hang of it..and i loved it.
     
  15. Commander of the F.S.

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    What if the Nazis came out with the STG-44 earler?
     
  16. Hufflepuff

    Hufflepuff Semi-Frightening Mountain Goat

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    The war would've taken a faster pace, I tend to think, with weapon design and infantry tactics.

    Didn't somebody cover that in another thread?
     
  17. JCFalkenbergIII

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    Yes T.A. did. I can't remember the thread though.
     
  18. JCFalkenbergIII

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    Here it is. Thanks and credit to T.A. Gardner.

    "It isn't the weapon that is important, it is the orgainzed unit within which it is being used that is critical. The difference on the battlefield between the various submachineguns, excepting those of very poor quality, is insignificant, just as the choice of rifle is. Yes, semi-automatics do make a small difference as do assault rifles. But, in infantry units the only weapons of real military siginficance are machineguns, mortars, and grenade launchers / man portable HE /AT weapons."

    http://www.ww2f.com/information-requests/22907-russian-vs-german-infantry-weapons.html#post277452
     
  19. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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  20. Tony Williams

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    I mostly agree with that.

    The real benefit of the assault rifles is that they provided each soldier who had one with a multipurpose weapon, which could do the job of both an SMG and (at normal ranges) a rifle. So compared with a unit equipped with a mixture of SMGs and semi-auto or bolt-action rifles, the useful firepower was, on average, higher, since the rifle-armed men weren't very handy in street fighting while the SMG-armed men weren't much use in open country.
     

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