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Yakov Dzhugashvili

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  1. drache

    drache Member

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    I've read conflicting accounts of Yakov's death - was it a suicide or he killed escaping a german concentration camp?

    And what was Stalin's real feelings on it - did he really consider his son a traitor or, as some accounts suggest, did he attempt to organize a rescue mission?
     
  2. FramerT

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    Stalin's "wife's" death was kinda mysterious,too?No? :confused:
     
  3. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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    Mysterious? A miracle would be if she kept alive, putting up with a guy like that! :eek:
     
  4. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    If I recall it all correctly ( the story is somewhere here on the Forums but cannot find it right now ) Yakov "tried" to escape, but he knew he would be shot so it was kinda suicide.

    Stalin did not send any rescue patrols as he thought that anybody that surrendered to the Germans was a traitor. So he would have killed the boy even if he had returned in good health.
     
  5. Deep Web Diver

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    The California National Guard has a Daily Telegraph article posted on their website which states that Yakov Dzhugashvili committed suicide in despair after learning about the Katyn Forest massacre. Click the link below and then look for the link entitled "Stalin's Son Committed Suicide in POW Camp" on the California National Guard website to access the article.

    California National Guard: Military Notes from all over
     
  6. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    Thanx DWD,

    although wondering if Yakov would have been so amazed by such crimes afetr watching a dictator do his dirty work for years.

    There was also a nice story on that site on how to differentiate a good dictator from a bad:

    When Josef Stalin was on his deathbed he called in two likely successors, to test which one of the two had a better knack for ruling the country.

    He ordered two birds to be brought in and presented one bird to each of the two candidates.

    The first one grabbed the bird, but was so afraid that the bird could free himself from his grip and fly away that he squeezed his hand very hard, and when he opened his palm, the bird was dead.

    Seeing the disapproving look on Stalin's face and being afraid to repeat his rival's mistake, the second candidate loosened his grip so much that the bird freed himself and flew away.

    Stalin looked at both of them scornfully. "Bring me a bird!" he ordered.

    They did.

    Stalin took the bird by its legs and slowly, one by one, he plucked all the feathers from the bird's little body.

    Then he opened his palm. The bird was laying there naked, shivering, helpless.

    Stalin looked at him, smiled gently and said, "You see... and he is even thankful for the human warmth coming out of my palm."
     
  7. Deep Web Diver

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    You're welcome, Kai.

    I wondered about that point too.
     
  8. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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    He sure shows a lot of activity for a guy dying...
     

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