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#1 VicMill

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Posted 07 August 2007 - 02:58 PM

Hi

Is there a simple way of finding out where a squadron was based and what planes they were flying?

Also is there a way of finding out which squadron by a man's service number?

I am trying to get some background on some men who were killed whilst serving in the RAF.

Thanks in anticipation

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#2 Amrit

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Posted 07 August 2007 - 03:44 PM

Two very good online resources are:

RAF Commands 1939 - 1945

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and books:

RAF Squadrons: A Comprehensive Record of the Movement and Equipment of All RAF Squadrons and Their Antecedents Since 1912 by G C Jefford

Fighter Squadrons of the RAF and Their Aircraft (2nd Rev Ed) by John D R
Rawlings

If you know any squadron details then there are specialized books that can be checked. For example I have the 8 volumes of Chorley's Bomber Command Losses, and Frank's 3 volume Fighter Command Losses (as does another member on here). Or theatre of operations or death?

However, a service number may tell you where and when individuals enlisted but not what unit they subsequently served in (though there are exceptions).

A good place to ask is:

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or post the names on here and we'll see what we can do for you. Have you had a look at their CWGC entries and/or searched for details on the London Gazette:

:: CWGC ::
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#3 VicMill

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Posted 08 August 2007 - 12:26 PM

Thanks for the advice and links Amrit. They've given me some extra information.

I'm researching the men on the local war memorial so far only have the following from the CWGC Debt of Honour:

Sergeant (Pilot) James Body (658465) of 78 Squadron who died 13 May 1943 and who is buried in Haasrode Churchyard.

Flying Officer Richard Harding Stent (124662) of RAFVR 38 Squadron who died 16 February 1943 and who is shown on the Alamein Memorial.

Flight Sergeant (Pilot) Harold Sorrell (1395539) who died 16 May 1945 and is buried in the local churchyard, but the CWGC record doesn't show which squadron, hence the question about service numbers.

I thought the London Gazette was only for officers, or have I got that wrong?

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Posted 08 August 2007 - 12:41 PM

RE: Sergeant (Pilot) James Body (658465) of 78 Squadron who died 13 May 1943 and who is buried in Haasrode Churchyard.

From Chorley's Bomber Command Losses

Halifax JB873 EY-J
Target - Bochum

Airborne 2329 from Linton-on-Ouse.

Shot down by a night- fighter (Lt Heinz Wolfgang Schnaufer, 11./NJG1) and crashed between Oud-Heverlee and Haasrode (Brabant), two villages 4 km SSW and SSE of Leuven, Belgium.

Sgt G H Dane MiD KIA
Sgt J H Body (second pilot) KIA
Sgt A C P.Minnitt PoW
Sgt R G Goddard Evaded
Sgt L Adams PoW
Sgt J W Pople PoW
Sgt A Beatson PoW
Sgt F W Webb PoW

Goddard received a DFM when he arrived back in Britain:

Distinguished Flying Medal.
T333556 Sergeant Ronald George GODDARD, Royal Air Force, No. 78 Squadron.
In air operations this officer and airman have displayed courage and fortitude of the highest order

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Posted 08 August 2007 - 12:48 PM

RE: Flying Officer Richard Harding Stent (124662) of RAFVR 38 Squadron who died 16 February 1943 and who is shown on the Alamein Memorial.

Wellington Bomber HD 966 piloted by P/O Ewen McDonald left RAF Shallufa
at 17:30 hours on 16 February 1943, briefed for a mine laying operation
over Candia Harbour, Crete. The weather over the target was good.

The crew consisted of Flying Officer Stent, Flying Officer Robertson,
Sergeant McConnachie and Sergeant Surtees as well as the pilot. During
the operation, the plane was brought down by anti-aircraft fire and
crashed into the sea near Candia (Heraklion).

Flying Officer Stent (posthumously promoted from Sergeant), Flying
Officer Robertson and Sergeant Surtees were listed as "Lost at Sea" and
have no known grave. They are commemorated on the
Alamein War Memorial, FO Stent and FO Robinson on Column 269, and Sgt Surtees on Column 272.

Only Ewen and Sergeant McConnachie survived, although Ewen knew nothing
of any of their fates at the time as he was seriously injured in the
crash.

After 11 hours in the sea, he was rescued by a German craft, and taken
to hospital in Candia, where he later found out that Sgt McConnachie was
also in hospital with him.”


There are more details at:

RootsWeb: WORLDWAR2-L [WORLD WAR II] Attn Kerry

#6 Amrit

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Posted 08 August 2007 - 01:17 PM

Sorrell is proving to be tricky. He's not in the Bomber Command Losses (unless he succumbed to wounds from a much earlier incident), or in Fighter Command Losses. He doesn't appear in any POW lists either. With his place of burial it seems that he was killed in an accident in the UK.

I shall check with the members over on rafcommands.

#7 VicMill

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Posted 08 August 2007 - 02:20 PM

Amrit

I'm stunned - that's absolutely fantastic.

Thank you very, very much.

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Posted 08 August 2007 - 03:50 PM

RE: Flight Sergeant (Pilot) Harold Sorrell (1395539) who died 16 May 1945

DaveW and Resmoroh on rafcommands have come up trumps:

"(Avro) Anson N9911 of 9 OAFU (Observer Advanced Flying Unit ) crashed at or near Mona Airfield 16/05/45 killing Harold Sorrell, RB Douglas and J Blair"

and

"Harold Sorrell's death, aged 27, Registered at Anglesey, Wales, Registration District in 2nd Quarter of 1945. Ref Vol 11b, Page 472. DC (Death Certificate) may, or may not, record precise Cause Of Death."

Posted Image - "Fl/Sgt Harold SORRELL"

9 OAFU was based at RAF Llandwrog airfield

The others who died:
CWGC :: Casualty Details
CWGC :: Casualty Details

#9 VicMill

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Posted 08 August 2007 - 07:17 PM

Wow Amrit - many thanks again. Please thank the guys at RAFCommands for me.

Isn't t'internet a great thing - you can learn so much in such a short time.

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Posted 14 November 2009 - 11:20 AM

I'm currently trying to find information about my late Grandfather. I know he was in the RAF for WWII. He is Scottish, born 10/04/1916 and his name is William C Graham.

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 12:16 PM

RE: Flying Officer Richard Harding Stent (124662) of RAFVR 38 Squadron who died 16 February 1943 and who is shown on the Alamein Memorial.



There are more details at:

RootsWeb: WORLDWAR2-L [WORLD WAR II] Attn Kerry

Ewan MacDonald was Rector of The Gordon Schools, Huntly, Aberdeenshire when I attended in the 1970's. The last time I saw him was in the late 1980's, so I do not know if he's still alive. He lived in Huntly, so should be traceable through the phone directory. It was known, but not common knowledge, among the pupils that he had been a Wellington pilot and had survived a bad crash. He was still fit enough to be swimming lengths of the local swimming pool in the late 1980's though.

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 11:31 AM

Hi all

I'm trying to do some research on my late grandfather well both of them really, however I am currently looking for a Mr Anthony Alfred Glynn RAF (Pilot i believe) of which i have very little info other than he did have a posting to 9 OAFU (Observer Advanced Flying Unit) RAF Llandwrog near Cearnarfan, north wales. After which he supposedly spent time over in Burma. A particular note of interest is that he was in a columm of aircraft due to take off on a raid he was a person down in crew, he spotted said crewman running to the aircraft and so he stopped the line to pick the crewman. He then contined with the mission, but on his return allegedly he was busted in rank. this apparently was in lancsasters and with being busted may have then gone onto RAF Llandwrog afterwoods. He survived the war and attended may reunions in regard to the Burma Star group. However they can't find his name either. I am currently waiting for a copy of death cert for which i can ask for general enquiries information with cranwell which may give his rank and Number. He survived the war and died 3rd Aug 1991 in conwy, north wales. any help would be most apprieiated even to confirm his posting to Llandwrog.

Regards

Mr Dave Glynn

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 01:53 AM

Hi Dave. Glad you could join us. I can't help you, but some of our British compatriots probably can. Why don't you begin your own thread? That way it will get more traffic. Good luck.

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 11:39 AM

Thanks for the advice and links Amrit. They've given me some extra information.

I'm researching the men on the local war memorial so far only have the following from the CWGC Debt of Honour:

Sergeant (Pilot) James Body (658465) of 78 Squadron who died 13 May 1943 and who is buried in Haasrode Churchyard.

Flying Officer Richard Harding Stent (124662) of RAFVR 38 Squadron who died 16 February 1943 and who is shown on the Alamein Memorial.

Flight Sergeant (Pilot) Harold Sorrell (1395539) who died 16 May 1945 and is buried in the local churchyard, but the CWGC record doesn't show which squadron, hence the question about service numbers.

I thought the London Gazette was only for officers, or have I got that wrong?

VicMill

 

Vic - I'm not sure if you are still following this thread but my father was a (civilian) friend of Rick Stent's - I have original airletters my father wrote to Rick in Feb and April 1943 which were returned to him marked "Return on Air Ministry Instructions".  I also have a letter from Edward Stent (Rick's brother perhaps) sent to my father on 24th May 1943 informing him that Richard was killed when his Wellington came down over Crete.  Where is the local war memorial you are researching - Raunds?  

Stephen






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