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Poll: B24 or B17 (21 member(s) have cast votes)

B24 or B17

  1. B17 (11 votes [52.38%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 52.38%

  2. B24 (10 votes [47.62%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 47.62%

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#1 german mauser k98k man

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Posted 23 July 2008 - 08:01 PM

what do you all like better i am a fan both but the B24 had longer range and a hevier payload.
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Posted 23 July 2008 - 08:22 PM

I chose the B-17 because my great uncle was a tail gunner.
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Posted 23 July 2008 - 08:38 PM

The Liberator, because history will lean towards the Fortress.

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Posted 23 July 2008 - 08:44 PM

Can't split them They each had their strengths, which were vital in the Allied programme.

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Posted 23 July 2008 - 09:14 PM

It seems unfair to the poor old B-24 ; it's a little like the Spitfire/Hurricane argument.

You just can't deny that the B-17 has a 'look' about it.....:rolleyes:
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Posted 23 July 2008 - 09:32 PM

both were needed and can be compared to death as witness on armyairforces.com where the vets of both a/c come out and slug it till there is no more..........no-one wins.

they did their job and did it well

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 12:21 AM

Different yet equal.

Tail Gunner in a 17 eh ?

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 12:35 AM

I chose the B-17 because my great uncle was a tail gunner.

Did he live trough the war? most tail gunners had a lifespan of 2-4 weeks.
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Posted 24 July 2008 - 01:09 AM

Really? I'd love to know where you got those figures, they could be useful to me.

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 01:18 AM

LANCASTER!!!!!!!



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Posted 24 July 2008 - 02:16 AM

sorry no bomber command a/c allowed ..........

Mike he was a tail gunner in what period of the war ? from summer of 44 till wars end it may have been the worst manned position on either the 17 or the 24 due to the tail end attacks by the LW

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 03:55 AM

I remember reading on the Poelisti (sp?) Oilfield raids and enjoyed the work of the Liberators. Probably gonna give my biased decision to them.
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Posted 24 July 2008 - 08:32 AM

dear all,
it also depends on the losses of both a/c,which may make some difference.
i also like the b24,because it saved many ball tuuet gunners from being scraped along a runway,if the hydrolics were shot out.
it helped fill the black gap,in the atlantic,very often overlooked.
as mentioned before,it had more range than the b17,and carried more bombs,which afterall was its job.lee.
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Posted 24 July 2008 - 10:23 AM

Did he live trough the war? most tail gunners had a lifespan of 2-4 weeks.

Yes he did live through, though he died a few years before my birth.

This is what I posted in another thread about him. Post #155
http://www.ww2f.com/...html#post295012


I never met got a chance to meet him. He died 3 years before my birth. I only know one story, the one where he should have been killed. I'm not sure when it happened but his best friend in the war came down with a terrible spout of food poisoning the day before an important bombing mission. My Great-Uncle Robert was not scheduled for any missions that day, so he told his friend (Mike was his name) to stay in bed and that he would take his mission for the day in the tail gunners spot. The following week Mike told him "you did me a favor by taking my flight, and now I am going to return the favor. I'll take your spot." When the Planes came back latter in the day his plane was not among them. According to my father, reports from the other pilots that day claimed no parachutes where seen from the crew.


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Posted 24 July 2008 - 11:47 AM

B-24 wins by count of tails ;)

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 07:43 PM

B-24 wins by count of tails ;)


That will give the equation:

1 x B-24 = 2 x B-17

Does that include the B-17G with the ventral turret...?

Will the B-24 outgun the B-17G in a confrontation?

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 07:59 PM

Of course, it goes without saying really, the B-24 Liberator far out classed the lowly B-17
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Posted 24 July 2008 - 08:14 PM

Interesting read on the AAF forum on this very subject with good imput from several crew members.

B-24 versus B-17

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 08:23 PM

Both types served as they were meant to and both types ended up in the same place after the war.

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 08:35 PM

JCF,

One of the MAJOR thrills of 3 trips to the USA was Davis-Monthan AFB and the PIMA Air and Space Museum. I presume this pic is an early one of that area?


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Posted 24 July 2008 - 08:38 PM

Yep. I have been there a few times in my youth when I lived in AZ in the late 60s to 70's.
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Posted 24 July 2008 - 10:10 PM

Of course, it goes without saying really, the B-24 Liberator far out classed the lowly B-17



What has the Nimrod to do in this context..:confused:

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 03:12 AM

Another of same

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 03:23 AM

I have been through both of them and I can see why the B-24 was not a favorite of the crews. It is not as solid as the B-17 and it could not take the abuse. The pilots have claimed it was a bear to handle. All things considered, they both were necessary and met different needs. The P-47 and the P51 were both great aircraft, but hardly interchangeable. When range was less important than survival, B-17. When range and load mattered most, B-24.
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 03:50 AM

But the photo is Litchfield Park not Davis Monthan. I can tell by the mountians in the background. This park was outside Luke AFB.




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