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#1 Kuno Von Dodenburg

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Posted 07 August 2008 - 05:27 PM

Anyone else familiar with these two TV shows?

"Garrison's Gorillas" used to be a family event in our house on a Saturday night in the late '60s.

As a kid of primary school age (5 - 7 yrs, I think that's what you Yanks call 'grade school'?), I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread.

It got repeated in the UK nearly 20 years later (mid '80s) on Channel 4. I caught and taped a few episodes (foolishly I then taped over them again) and - while it wasn't as good as I remembered it from first time round - it was still enjoyable.

Then a couple of years ago - on the UK's then-new ITV4 channel - I found myself watching the "Dirty Dozen" TV series, which was shot in the late '80s on a shoestring budget in Yugoslavia and had Ben Murphy in the lead role of the lieutenant in charge of a bunch of US Army convicts sent off on hazardous missions. And a more mind-numbingly, embarrassingly BAD series I've seldom seen in my life (worse even than the "Dirty Dozen" made-for-TV movie spin-offs with a grossly overweight, far-too-old-for-the-role Telly Savalas that were made at around the same time).

I was just wondering if anyone else here has any memories of and thoughts about these two shows, both of which (sadly in the case of "Garrison's Gorillas", and mercifully in the case of "The Dirty Dozen - the TV Series") seem to have slipped very much into obscurity.

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Posted 07 August 2008 - 06:30 PM

Not ever heard of Garrison's Gorillas, I live in the states. I recognized the DD series for what it was before it aired and avoided it like a dog turd on a sidewalk, which, interestingly enough, was the how the series could be described.

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Posted 07 August 2008 - 09:35 PM

Garrison's Guerillas replaced Combat. Combat still had another season or two, I think, before it would have gotten stale, but the cost of the show was getting too high and the network realized that it could cancel the show and do a new WWII drama with new cast members.

I have been looking for Garrison's Guerillas on DVD for the past 2 years but it has not been released, or scheduled for release, yet.

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Posted 07 August 2008 - 11:49 PM

I vaugely remember watching Garrison's Gorillas as a kid.

I have been looking for Garrison's Guerillas on DVD for the past 2 years but it has not been released, or scheduled for release, yet.


Dgm, check the links out below...

Garrison's Gorillas DVD : TV Shows, TV Series on DVD Complete from DVDAvenue.Tv

Engale Marketing Garrison's Gorillas
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Posted 08 August 2008 - 01:43 AM

Dgm, check the links out below...

Garrison's Gorillas DVD : TV Shows, TV Series on DVD Complete from DVDAvenue.Tv

Engale Marketing Garrison's Gorillas


John -- Many thanks for these links! I had never stumbled onto these sites.

Cheers!

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 12:34 PM

I have fond memories of watching Garrison's Gorillas as a kid with my Dad. The show is like Mission Impossible set in World War II.

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Posted 09 August 2008 - 09:28 PM

I heard of Garrison's Gorillas but never saw any. I also heard about the Dirty Dozen TV series, but do not recall watching any-probably because someone else always had control of the darn remote.

I'd be willing to watch them though-if ever aired?
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Posted 10 August 2008 - 01:12 AM

I now feel quite ancient I had forgotten all about Garrisons' Gorillas I never missed an episode.

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 10:48 PM

Warning! Garrison's Gorillas Ripoff.
This is not a spam promotion, but a warning.

I decided to treat myself to the complete 26-episode one-season of the TV show Garrison's Gorillas, which I loved as a kid. I found the series for sale on DVD at this site:

http://www.clickdvdmedia.com/product.php?productid=38630

As can be seen, the price was marked as 50% off, however, the shipping & handling was $17.00, which I reluctantly accepted. The product took a full three weeks to arrive.

The first obvious realization was the DVDs were not in the case that is shown on the website. Instead, 8-DVDs in cheap, two-pocket plastic holders were put into a large plastic case, the type used to hold VHS video tapes. The DVDs can rattle around inside this video case. A cheap home computer label was wrapped around this outer case; not a bad effort, but certainly not professional. The DVDs are also numbered in pen by hand on the disc labels.

The sound and picture quality was that of a second or third generation video recording. In fact, it is obvious these DVDs were burned from VHS tapes that someone recorded this series from rerun TV. The color is dull, tracking waves periodically flow across the screen, and split-second late editing from commercial breaks are evident. The episodes are viewable but certainly not the quality one would expect for that price.

I'll suck this one up, but I hope this heads-up saves anyone else from getting ripped-off by this seller.

Greg C.


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Posted 31 December 2009 - 07:40 PM

I was told that G's G's was basically a rip-off of COMBAT. What ""Killed"" COMBAT-was going to Color.
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Posted 31 December 2009 - 07:43 PM

garrisons gorillas,remember it well ....

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Posted 01 January 2010 - 03:05 AM

I was told that G's G's was basically a rip-off of COMBAT. What ""Killed"" COMBAT-was going to Color.


Actually G's G's was a rip off of the Dirty Dozen. Even Telly Savalas guest starred in the first episode. BUT, G's G's was a Selmar Production as Combat! was, and many of the G's G's sets and California outdoor scenes were filmed at the same locales as Combat! Even the music soundtrack was identical.

As for color, my mother bought our first color TV set in 1967. I was 10, and to me, color TV was a whole new world. I can understand now the different feel of B&W and color, but at that time, I would have taken color over B&W any day.

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Posted 01 January 2010 - 04:54 PM

As a kid, I enjoyed watching Garrison's Gorillas because its star, Ron Harper,
was from my home town.

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Posted 01 January 2010 - 06:30 PM

God, I remember that one! Cheers, Dave. :cool:
I never saw it's contemporary The Rat Patrol, since my old man is a North Africa veteran and refused to have it on his telly!
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Posted 02 January 2010 - 06:19 PM

Actually G's G's was a rip off of the Dirty Dozen. Even Telly Savalas guest starred in the first episode. BUT, G's G's was a Selmar Production as Combat! was, and many of the G's G's sets and California outdoor scenes were filmed at the same locales as Combat! Even the music soundtrack was identical.

As for color, my mother bought our first color TV set in 1967. I was 10, and to me, color TV was a whole new world. I can understand now the different feel of B&W and color, but at that time, I would have taken color over B&W any day.

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Hi Greg, thanks for the other info, I know a gent who will appreciate knowing that about a series that he always played "second Fiddle" to COMBAT. ;-))

As for B7W and Color goes, Im more of a "purist" and I prefer movies and Tv shows to stay in their original formats menaing keep all things B7W-B&W and all things Color-Color. As for COMBAT and its last season being in Color-i'd have and still do, prefer the opinion that itSHOULD have stayed in B&W.

One series I didn't mind going to Color-was Star Trek.
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Posted 02 January 2010 - 06:22 PM

God, I remember that one! Cheers, Dave. :cool:
I never saw it's contemporary The Rat Patrol, since my old man is a North Africa veteran and refused to have it on his telly!


Hi mate, I wish I had known that you like The Rat Patrol, because I would have sent you both seasons on DvD-which I had till fairly recently-when I sent them to a friend of mine in Georgia. ;-))

My favorite characters on it were Christopher George (the Sgt. and Hans Gudegast (now known as: Erich Braeden) as the DAK offizier. ;-))
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Posted 04 January 2010 - 07:38 AM

Dgm, check the links out below...

Garrison's Gorillas DVD : TV Shows, TV Series on DVD Complete from DVDAvenue.Tv

Engale Marketing Garrison's Gorillas


Just like dgm, I say thank you. My dad and I used to watch Garrison's Gorrillas regularly when it was rerun in Philippine TV. Combat still airs regularly in the late afternoon here.
That's about it,
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Posted 09 January 2010 - 05:25 PM

No worries, Carl. I've never the programme at all unfortunately; I distinctly remember the channel getting turned the minute pater heard the theme tune! :eek:
Garrison's Gorillas was briefly repeated here in the mid 80s.
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Posted 11 January 2010 - 06:52 PM

No worries, Carl. I've never the programme at all unfortunately; I distinctly remember the channel getting turned the minute pater heard the theme tune! :eek:
Garrison's Gorillas was briefly repeated here in the mid 80s.


A wise decision Mate. When I first saw a few episodes of I wasn't collecting so much but, since then, being a collector and all, I can't stand the show even though I do like Christopher George, the UK Gent and hans Gudegast (aka) Erich Braeden on some damned soap opera.
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Posted 11 January 2010 - 11:11 PM

...but, since then, being a collector and all, I can't stand the show even though I do like Christopher George, the UK Gent and hans Gudegast (aka) Erich Braeden on some damned soap opera.


As a kid, I thought the Rat Patrol was "cool." But as an adult, when I learned how historically inaccurate the show was, I lost interest. Based on the British Long Range Desert Group (LRDG), the show suggested the Rat Patrol was an American idea, whereas American units never fought in the Libian Desert. Saying the show was a distortion of history would be an understatement.

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 05:29 PM

Hi greg, I completely agree with you about the Rat Patrol. I never got to watch it as a kid as it was never shown in reruns in my area-and COMBAT was only shown in rerun once-when I was about 9-anbd was on noon Saturdays.

I got to watch my first Rat Patrol episode back about 1995. I had just started collecting more and more German stuff, and also reading more-and I was very disappointed with the show and its countless inaccuracies.

I bought the both seasons on DvD when they came out-as they were not too expensive-and I watched them-barely struggling through most of them but stilll greatly enjoying Christopher George and Hans Gudegast.
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 05:05 PM

I remember the short lived Dirty Dozen tv series with Ben Murphy. I never saw an episode of Garrison's guerrillas however. Combat is still my favorite however. I don't know if going to color ruined it. I wish they would have left it in B&W for the last season. Also didn't Vic Morrow want out? At one point in the show Rick Jason was getting paid for not even showing up. Hanley was okay but Saunders took the cake. On a final note, Ben Murphy played Warren Henry in Winds of War.

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 04:10 AM

At one point in the show Rick Jason was getting paid for not even showing up. Hanley was okay but Saunders took the cake.


It was not quite getting paid for not showing up, both Morrow and Jason were paid a high salery even if they did not appear in a Combat! episode, whereas the other actors had to be in an episode in order to get paid. In other words, if an episode featured a Saunders adventure and Hanley was not even in it, Jason still got paid, and vise-versa. It all came down to greed. Morrow was always contracting for a higher salery every year, until the networks just had enough, and the show was cancelled. Again I stress that in 1967, color TV was becoming affordable for the working-class family. If Combat! did not go to color for its last season, they would have been considered behind the times.

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 06:36 AM

Garrison's Gorillas TV Show
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Series Description:
The Garrison's Gorillas TV show was a 60 minute war/action series on ABC about a group of misfits who were taken from prisons to become commandos who would use their criminal skills against the Germans during World War II. If their maneuvers were successful, they would get Presidential pardons. If they failed, they would be disposed of by a firing squad!
Garrison's Gorillas Cast:
Ron Harper ................. Lieutenant Craig Garrison
Rudy Solari ................ Casino
Brendon Boone .............. Chief
Cesare Danova .............. Actor
Christopher Cary ........... Goniff
Garrison's Gorillas Trivia:
The Garrison's Gorillas TV show was obviously inspired by the 1967 movie, "The Dirty Dozen". In fact, Telly Savalas who starred in that movie was a guest star on the very first episode.
Casino was a safe cracker who could break into just about anything, Chief was an American Indian who could quietly kill with his switchblade, Actor was a pretty-boy con man who could convince anyone of anything, and Goniff was a cat burglar who could get in and out of anyplace without being seen.
Lieutenant Garrison was a West Point graduate who, after a brief period of difficulty, quickly convinced his "tough-guy" crew that he was tougher than the bunch of them put together.
Garrison's Gorillas had a pretty nice time slot on Tuesday evenings from 7:30 to 8:30PM. In the same slot, CBS was airing "Daktari" while NBC was broadcasting "I Dream of Jeannie" and the first half of "The Jerry Lewis Show".
Garrison's Gorillas were "headquartered" in a secluded part of England but their missions were typically behind enemy lines on the continent.
Episodes List With Original Air Dates
The First and Only Season
The Big Con (9/6/1967)
Breakout (9/13/1967)
The Grab (9/19/1967)
Banker's Hours (9/26/1967)
48 Hours to Doomsday (10/3/1967)
The Great Theft (10/10/1967)
The Deadly Masquerade (10/17/1967)
Now I Lay Me Down to Die (10/24/1967)
Operation Hellfire (10/31/1967)
Thieves' Holiday (11/7/1967)
20 Gallons to Kill (11/14/1967)
Friendly Enemies (11/21/1967)
Black Market (11/28/1967)
The Great Crime Wave (12/5/1967)
The Magnificent Forger (12/19/1967)
The Expendables (12/26/1967)
War Games (1/2/1968)
Run From Death (1/9/1968)
The Death Sentence (1/16/1968)
The Big Lie (1/23/1968)
Ride of Terror (1/30/1968)
War and Crime - Part 1 (2/13/1968)
The Plot to Kill - Part 2 (2/20/1968)
The Frame-Up (2/27/1968)
The War Diamonds (3/5/1968)
Time Bomb (3/12/1968)

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 06:42 AM

As a kid, I enjoyed watching Garrison's Gorillas because its star, Ron Harper,
was from my home town.

Garrison's Gorillas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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Ron Harper, I just recognized his name. He was also in the 17 episode long short-lived series: Planet of the Apes-with Roddy McDowell and Mark Lenard (of Star Trek and Spocks Father--fame) as Gen Erko (SP?) I THINK the other of the trio was James NAughton??? Been too long since I last saw the series.
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