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#1 Za Rodinu

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Posted 24 October 2008 - 10:51 PM

In 1935, a mysterious group, Vril was found in Northwest Germany that was to develop a series of flying disc. The disc crafts were to be installed by a revolutionary electro-magnetic-gravitic engine that powered the rotating disc wing or internal disc blade. In 1939, A several of prototypes were said to be tested at Arado Brandenburg aircraft testing field. Stable and control problems were revealed during flight tests. In 1943, the SchutzStaffel maneuvered to take control of the weapon from the German Army. One of the tasks was researching the alternative energies and fuels. The SS took over the most completed models, the Vril RFZ-5 and RFZ-6, redesignated it as Haunebu I and II. The armament was planned the KSK strong ray cannon but was installed existing KG gun and tank cannon instead. In 1944, the SS had intended to produce the Haunebu II with tenders for both Junkers and Dornier but in early 1945 Dornier was chosen. However, the end of the war prevented Dornier from building any Haunebu production.

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Type: Heavy Armed Flight Gyro
Purpose: To explore the VTOL flying-disc craft that powered by electro-magnetic engine
Span (dia.): 32m.
Height: 11.20m.
Engine: 1x Thule Triebwerk EMG engines
Max.speed: 6000 km/h (planned)
Crew: 9

Armament:6x MG-131 machine gun / 2x 3.7 Flak 43 cannon


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#2 Erich

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Posted 25 October 2008 - 12:31 AM

M ~ the article is a bit perverted, the silly men in black tried to take over the palns and mock ups from the Lw techs, I have drawings from GErmany on this back from the 1960's some really weird findings and ideas that back in it's time really sounded like a true idea that could come off .............

#3 Von Poop

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Posted 25 October 2008 - 01:38 AM

Somewhat tentatively I'll dip my toe into saucerhead world for the first time in a while. I used to 'disagree' with these chaps on a non ww2 basis and it's the closest I've come to religious fanaticism where 'hope' is the real deity...

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This is a useful page on the subject, ignore the familiar top two thirds and go straight to the final section beginning with "Stories of the scientific advances of the Third Reich have circulated for decades. KEVIN McCLURE explains that the flying saucer legend ain’t exactly rocket science."
The chap that wrote the final section was/is a writer for the once-excellent 'Fortean Times' (I believe the article is from there) and has a good grasp of the mythos of the subject and the motivations of some saucerheads.
(Though doubtless there are countless others refuting the author as some sort of deranged heretic... they do like a good old bitter and spite-filled row in saucer-world) :

These paragraphs give a flavour:

Dislodging established and much-repeated nonsense is much more difficult, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try. And in cases where such nonsense tends to exaggerate or glorify the activities of the Nazis during World War II, I think we should try particularly hard. In that spirit of endeavour, let’s see what we can do about the very untrue story of Viktor Schauberger – builder of flying saucers.
The detailed and ever-growing fiction of the Nazi UFO mythos tells us that the Nazis were so technically, creatively and scientifically brilliant that, had the war only lasted a few months longer, they would have won it by
using their amazing flying saucers, which were so very nearly ready for combat when the Allied forces entered Czechoslovakia and Southern Germany.

There are two hurdles the mythos has always fought to overcome. Firstly, that there is no historical record that the characters said to have been involved in saucer development – figures like Schriever, Belluzzo, Habermohl, Miethe and Kleinever – had anything to with the development of ‘flying discs’. Only Guiseppe Belluzzo has any verifiable scientific
background at all; Schriever was a delivery driver, and it is unclear whether Habermohl and Miethe even so much as existed as identifiable individuals.


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Posted 25 October 2008 - 12:21 PM

The photos are based on the 1950's Adamski saucers where 'evidence' has been manufactured to claim they were German prototypes.
http://www.gafintl-a...ml/GAFPhoto.htm

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Posted 25 October 2008 - 01:27 PM

I do still think that Roswell was just an Nazi-saucer who crashed down. Nothing more nothing less. but yeah you read it more and more that th egrmans may had seucers.
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Posted 25 October 2008 - 03:42 PM

"I want to believe" is the unspoken mantra.
I don't, and tinfoil hats give me a terrible itch...


Id have to agree. Until it breaks on UP, CBS, NBC,ABC CNN or Fox, Im gonna have to be a sceptic.
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Posted 25 October 2008 - 04:10 PM

let's get off this goofy subject, especially since I am positive that Adamski’s "saucer" was really a dolled up chicken brooder (automatic feeder) from the late forties, mid-fifties. Here is a model which I believe is still for sale:

http://www.fantastic...gSaucerPage.htm

Or Adamski’s photo might really represent a tobacco humidor cover with ping-pong balls attached to the underside as proposed by the USAF:

http://ufos.homestead.com/afdoc2.jpg

About as much a flying saucer as the Nazi phonies which have been posted here, they probably used the model from "fantastic plastic".

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#8 Za Rodinu

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Posted 25 October 2008 - 04:36 PM

Chicken feeder? I'm offended! I would like to bring to your attention the source I took for the piece of information I based this topic on. Enjoy! :D

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Posted 25 October 2008 - 04:51 PM

it all makes sense now: saucer + chicken = yummy M2

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