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#1 A-58

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 02:26 AM

I came across some information about the Bundswehr's latest effort in re-instating the Iron Cross, and the opposition to it by the PC police. The new decoration is called the Bundswehr Cross for Honor and Bravery. It is a neck order, and the cross itself is gold in color and is suspended from a ribbon with the colors of Germany. The Bundswehr's position was that the iron cross was the traditional symbol of the German army, and the PC police claimed the iron cross was a symbol made infamous by the Nazi's. I guess this is some sort of compromise to appease everyone.

It looks ok, the new award that is, but it doesn't look as cool as the black Iron Crosses of old, from a purely historical and nostolgic standpoint that is....

Edited by A-58, 15 December 2008 - 08:25 AM.
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Posted 15 December 2008 - 03:33 AM

Sounds like some of the overly PC minded individuals who want to change the flag of Alabama (see below) because it faintly favors the Southern Cross.
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Posted 15 December 2008 - 05:11 AM

Don't get me started on that....

And the Confederate Airforce changing it's name to the "Commemerative Airforce." When will it end?

Edited by A-58, 15 December 2008 - 05:13 AM.
Forgot something....

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"On the Plains of Hesitation, lies the blackened bones of countless millions who,
at the dawn of victory sat down to rest, and resting died"....

(Adlai Stevenson to Harry Truman on discussing the pros and cons of dropping the big one, or so I'm told)


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Posted 15 December 2008 - 01:12 PM

When will it end?


When you abolish the ACLU.....
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Posted 15 December 2008 - 01:49 PM

Don't get me started on that....

And the Confederate Airforce changing it's name to the "Commemerative Airforce." When will it end?


I used to give money to them, with emphasis on used to.

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Posted 23 December 2008 - 05:37 AM

I used to give money to them, with emphasis on used to.

"Can't we all just get along?" Not as long as the ACLU is still around as GofW clearly pointed out.

"On the Plains of Hesitation, lies the blackened bones of countless millions who,
at the dawn of victory sat down to rest, and resting died"....

(Adlai Stevenson to Harry Truman on discussing the pros and cons of dropping the big one, or so I'm told)


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Posted 23 December 2008 - 08:38 PM

Sounds like some of the overly PC minded individuals who want to change the flag of Alabama (see below) because it faintly favors the Southern Cross.
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Buncha buffoons, the lot of them.


AMEN to that Brother. Less than a mile from where im now living at is a smallish private airport and there are some "old warbirds" there and almost daily, I see one of them fly right over my neighborhood. :-D

About 25-30 years ago, I was a ""Colonel"" in the CONFEDERATE Airforce.Though my dark blue cap wore out decades ago-I still have my "Ghost Squadron" patch somewhere amongst my things.
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Posted 23 December 2008 - 08:40 PM

Don't get me started on that....

And the Confederate Airforce changing it's name to the "Commemerative Airforce." When will it end?


Sadly, I don't think that pc s#!t will end anytime soon.
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Posted 24 December 2008 - 05:43 AM

Definitely not in the next four to eight years. Four to eight, sounds like a stretch in the pen....

"On the Plains of Hesitation, lies the blackened bones of countless millions who,
at the dawn of victory sat down to rest, and resting died"....

(Adlai Stevenson to Harry Truman on discussing the pros and cons of dropping the big one, or so I'm told)


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Posted 24 December 2008 - 07:56 AM

any picture available of the new Bundescross proposal?

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Posted 24 December 2008 - 08:47 AM

any picture available of the new Bundescross proposal?

I read about it in Wikipedia. There's a picture of it there.
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at the dawn of victory sat down to rest, and resting died"....

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Posted 24 December 2008 - 08:56 AM

got it cheers ! and the golden version too for bravery

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Posted 24 December 2008 - 12:03 PM

Very nice looking medal....
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Posted 24 December 2008 - 12:28 PM

Yes, but it doesn't look as good as the older ones

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Posted 25 December 2008 - 12:04 AM

Yes, but it doesn't look as good as the older ones

Right you are on the new version not looking as good as the older ones, but I'm sure the current recipients chests will stick out just as far as their grandfathers and great-grandfathers chests did with the new ones pinned on it. Let's just hope that there are no more opportunities for such things, but we all know that won't happen. It's nice to think of though, especially today.

"On the Plains of Hesitation, lies the blackened bones of countless millions who,
at the dawn of victory sat down to rest, and resting died"....

(Adlai Stevenson to Harry Truman on discussing the pros and cons of dropping the big one, or so I'm told)


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Posted 26 December 2008 - 07:17 AM

Definitely not in the next four to eight years. Four to eight, sounds like a stretch in the pen....


Brother, you can say THAT again-and a major headache. I still cannot believe that THAT many people were ignorant enough to vote for this drug-addict. That's just great-all we need is another clinton in office. I'll give the "I can't answer that question because it's out of my pay grade" buffoon a chance. The guy fouls up-and all bets are off.
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Posted 26 December 2008 - 08:43 AM

This Iron Cross thread is turning into a politician crucifying one...... Let's stay on topic gents

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 11:20 PM

This Iron Cross thread is turning into a politician crucifying one...... Let's stay on topic gents

Roger that.

"On the Plains of Hesitation, lies the blackened bones of countless millions who,
at the dawn of victory sat down to rest, and resting died"....

(Adlai Stevenson to Harry Truman on discussing the pros and cons of dropping the big one, or so I'm told)


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Posted 29 December 2008 - 08:48 PM

Definitely not in the next four to eight years. Four to eight, sounds like a stretch in the pen....


Sorry about that/ no new crosses for me yet.

Forgot to mention I just recieved two very nice pairs of WWII German Army shoulderboards. these are: 17th Inf Rgmt Sgts boards-and also minty Kav/recon Lt.Cols boards.

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 05:23 AM

Sorry about that/ no new crosses for me yet.

Forgot to mention I just recieved two very nice pairs of WWII German Army shoulderboards. these are: 17th Inf Rgmt Sgts boards-and also minty Kav/recon Lt.Cols boards.

Santa Claus is generous and well versed it seems.

"On the Plains of Hesitation, lies the blackened bones of countless millions who,
at the dawn of victory sat down to rest, and resting died"....

(Adlai Stevenson to Harry Truman on discussing the pros and cons of dropping the big one, or so I'm told)


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Posted 30 December 2008 - 10:05 PM

Santa Claus is generous and well versed it seems.



Indeed. Santa Kruska is VERY generous and i'm going to send him something hopefully of equal value in return-not that he's requiring it ;-))

PS, on the cross-I do not think that that cross shown above is one meant to replace the Iron Cross-ive seen this version in Bronze, Silver and Gold, and I THINK (course I may be sadly mistaken) but, I THINK it's called the Bundeswehr Cross and is not given for acts of bravery but for splended Military service. There was a great website around a few years ago that had all the Bundeswehr medals on it pictured as well as explanations on how they wrer awarded and such.
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