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#1 Hufflepuff

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 03:20 AM

My friend from school sent me this and it was pretty interesting.
Pretty amazing (plus this is my 600th post hehe):

[QUOTE] WWII Tank Found after 62 Years.

WW II Russian tank with German markings uncovered after 62 years.. WW II Buffs will find this interesting. Even after 62 years (and a little tinkering), they were able to fire up the diesel engine!

A Komatsu D375A-2 bulldozer pulled the abandoned tank from its tomb under the boggy bank of a lake near Johvi , Estonia . The Soviet-built T34/76A tank had been resting at the bottom of the lake for 56 years. According to its specifications, it's a 27-ton machine with a top speed of 53km/hr.

From February to September 1944, heavy battles were fought in the narrow, 50 km-wide, Narva front in the northeastern part of Estonia . Over 100,000 men were killed and 300,000 men were wounded there. During battles in the summer of 1944, the tank was captured from the Soviet army and used by the German army. (This is the reason that there are German markings painted on the tank's exterior.) On 19th September, 1944 , German troops began an organized retreat along the Narva front. It is suspected that the tank was then purposefully driven into the lake to conceal it when its captors left the area.

At that time, a local boy walking by the lake, Kurtna Matasjarv, noticed tank tracks leading into the lake but not coming out anywhere. For two months he saw air bubbles emerging from the lake. This gave him reason to believe that there must be an armored vehicle at the lake's bottom. A few years ago, he told the story to the leader of the local war history club 'Otsing'. Together with other club members, Mr. Igor Shedunov initiated diving expeditions to the bottom of the lake about a year ago. At the depth of 7 metres they discovered the tank resting under a 3 metre layer of peat.

Enthusiasts from the club, under Mr Shedunov's leadership, decided to pull the tank out. In September of 2000 they turned to Mr.. Aleksander Borovkovthe, manager of the Narva open pit company AS Eesti Polevkivi, to rent the company's Komatsu D375A-2 bulldozer. (Currently used at the pit, the Komatsu dozer was manufactured in 1995, and has recorded 19,000 operating hours without major repairs.)

The pulling operation began at 09:00 and was concluded at 15:00 , with several technical breaks. The weight of the tank, combined with the travel incline, made for a pulling operation that required significant muscle. The D375A-2 handled the operation with power and style. The weight of the fully-armed tank was around 30 tons, so the active force required to retrieve it was similar. A main requirement for the 68-ton dozer was to have enough weight to prevent slippage while moving up the hill.

After the tank surfaced, it turned out to be a 'trophy tank' that had been captured by the German army in the course of the battle at Sinimaed (Blue Hills) about six weeks before it was sunk in the lake. Altogether, 116 shells were found on board. Remarkably, the tank was in good condition, with NO RUST, and all systems (except the engine) in working condition. This is a very rare machine, especially considering that it fought both on the Russian and the German sides. Plans are underway to fully restore the tank. It will be displayed at a war history museum in the Gorodenko village on the left bank of the River Narv. [QUOTE]

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#2 STURMTRUPPEN

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 08:17 PM

how many hours did it take those guys to recover the tank
at the end of the night i wont be reaching for the brass ring i'll be reaching for your wwe championship
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 08:21 PM

Thanks for the story. It's nothing new but they are finding more and digging up more and more tanks and vehicles. Good story though.
Lost are only those, who abandon themselves) Hans-Ulrich Rudel.
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 08:22 PM

Well, Carl, here are the photos that go with that story:

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 08:24 PM

And some more...

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 08:25 PM

Finally

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#7 dgmitchell

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 09:09 PM

I wish tanks grew by lakes in the USA, too!

#8 C.Evans

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 10:14 PM

Hi Texson, TANKS for the pics ;-)) And yes, im keeping my day job :lol:
Lost are only those, who abandon themselves) Hans-Ulrich Rudel.
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Posted 04 June 2009 - 11:45 PM

I'm almost positive we had that story here once. Or am I just getting old!
Anyway, nice pics!
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#10 Paul Errass

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 09:38 PM

This story has been circulating around forums for years the T34 BeutePanzer was found near Johvi in 2002.

It is now in bits in hidden locations !!
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#11 Von Poop

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 10:18 PM

It is now in bits in hidden locations !!


Is that confirmed Paul? As I seem to recall it might have been 'restored' now, sadly with all the markings lost. Maybe had a video claiming to be it now (other than the more well known ones of it's recovery), but I'd have to check.
It was certainly in rusty bits for a while afterwards, with apparently no decent preservation going on.

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 11:37 PM

Beautiful pictures....inspiring enough for a poetic tribute....


"Times have changed, my love.
The bog has kept your arse from rusting,
To be pulled apart, by those you should be trusting.
When last the light of day you saw,
The Red Army was a fine intrument of war,
And you were a mighty T-34,
Designed to put the foe in a state of shock and awe,
You ended at the bottom of an Estonian forrest floor...

Until today, my lovely T-34!
Defender of the workers, peasants and poor!
Fate decreed your in end in 1944...."


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Posted 06 May 2010 - 03:55 PM

Is that confirmed Paul? As I seem to recall it might have been 'restored' now, sadly with all the markings lost. Maybe had a video claiming to be it now (other than the more well known ones of it's recovery), but I'd have to check.
It was certainly in rusty bits for a while afterwards, with apparently no decent preservation going on.

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The tank is well preserved but is in bits due to the Estonian Government trying to claim the rights to it even though it was a private enterprise which pulled it out. To stop this the tank was taken apart and won't go back together until things are sorted out which will be ......... who knows !! I have been lucky enough to see some of it and it is in very good condition !!!

This unfortunate situation means that othe Tanks in lakes in Estonia will be stopping where they are even though their location is known.

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 05:27 PM

due tell us Paul what exciting things you witnessed on your most recent trip if you will ...........
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Posted 06 May 2010 - 05:42 PM

I'll happily take your word for it Paul, given your local knowledge, thanks for that.
It's quite a relief as the machine I saw claimed as this tank was a pretty rough restoration.

This unfortunate situation means that othe Tanks in lakes in Estonia will be stopping where they are even though their location is known.

Sounds entirely sensible to me, they must be safest there.

Cheers,
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Posted 07 May 2010 - 07:30 PM

Erich i'll post some photos soon i need to resize some of them to upload them !!
Nikto ne Zabyt . Nichto ne Zabyto. Let no one forget . Let nothing be forgotten.

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