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#1 Skipper

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 09:55 PM

Hello friends,

Upon Carl's request, here are his newest pictures he has just purchased :).

Carl will give you comments and details later.

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#2 272VGD.

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 09:56 PM

Very nice ones!
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Posted 23 February 2009 - 09:58 PM

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 10:02 PM


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#5 Erich

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 10:02 PM

nice pick-ups Carl, congrats ! pic # 1 and # 4 are of the same ceremony
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Posted 23 February 2009 - 10:03 PM

very nice pictures Carl....I especially like the first picture of the Iron Cross Presentation
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Posted 23 February 2009 - 10:04 PM

Thank you very much foryour help getting these here. I will give proper commentaries on them tomorrow. One pic in particular I dowant to brag about-is the one that has two German Sergeants w/ MP-40s hiding behind rubble. This is a well-documented and printed photograph in several books about The Eastern Front as well as Stalingrad. This photo IS a Stalingrad combat photo.

If anyone has the book Stalingrad: Cauldron of Fire--my picture is on its cover. This photograph is THE original-and is in snapshot photo size-or appx 3 x 2 inches in size. Be back tomorrow w/ more and better info.
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Posted 23 February 2009 - 10:09 PM

Glad it worked out Carl, let us know when you receive the originals.

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 10:11 PM

nice pick-ups Carl, congrats ! pic # 1 and # 4 are of the same ceremony




Many thanks E, AndyP/

E, I had not noticed pic 1 and 4-were from the same ceremony! Great spot on that one ;-)) You Sir, certainly have great perception powers ;-D

Andy, these are only the tip of the iceberg as far as my photo collection goes. The majority of them will not be posted here for probably amonth-just depends how long it takes before I can get them all scanned to photo Cds and then sent to Skipper.
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Posted 23 February 2009 - 10:13 PM

Glad it worked out Carl, let us know when you receive the originals.



Will do Skipper, and thank you very much for getting these here. I OWE you much.
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Posted 23 February 2009 - 10:28 PM

Carl in you're second montage of pics you have two different views of three Heer ? Ritterkreuz winners with staff Offizier present and presenting and then clowning with the guys for the typical propaganda pics for back home
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Posted 24 February 2009 - 01:03 AM

Thanks very much for letting us see these Carl.
I particularly like the Sturmpanzer shot, and that one of the Mark IV with those blokes clambering over it is a beauty.

Cheers,
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Posted 24 February 2009 - 01:53 AM

Carl in you're second montage of pics you have two different views of three Heer ? Ritterkreuz winners with staff Offizier present and presenting and then clowning with the guys for the typical propaganda pics for back home




Hi E, Das ist korrect ;-)) The tragedy about it is that these are sold seperately and I just happen to by accident-recognize that General and the newly minted RKT who has a tank destruction strip on his right sleeve. So-I went ahead and bough that one too. I just wonder if these are these were the first ones offered-or just how many have already been sold-or are yet to be listed? I don't have the funds on hand to try to get many more of these if these aren't the only ones left of this group?

I would love to find out who that General is-as well as the 3 "Minted" RKTs and I am wondering if that tall officer wearing the DKiG-was also later-an RKT?

I wonder if Paul has a way find out who those 3 RKTs are by seeing is there is a list of some sort that tells who they are based on being all decorated on the same day by the same General who most likely their Divisional Commander.?
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Posted 24 February 2009 - 01:57 AM

Hey Carl, again I mut say WoW...those are great photos you got there! and I agree with Voon Poop in liking the 'movement' of the men on the Mark IV - its cool to see the soldiers 'at work' - great buy!


A question though....(I don't know much about these types of photos)...but generally how do you know that they are the original images when buying them?

Is it the type of border around the edge of the photograph? or just a keen eye for detail, ageing etc? ......or is best to buy in person, so you can see them in real life?
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Posted 24 February 2009 - 02:01 AM

Thanks very much for letting us see these Carl.
I particularly like the Sturmpanzer shot, and that one of the Mark IV with those blokes clambering over it is a beauty.

Cheers,
Adam.


Hi Adam, thank you much for the nice compliments ;-)) Theres much more from where these came from soon to come. I like the Sturmtiger as well. I think I might be able to place this one w/ approx date and location-but have to wait for the pic to arrive.

This pic is a rare one and I I just barely missed out on a Leopard, two Ferdinands, two Tigers, and I Wespe.
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Posted 24 February 2009 - 02:07 AM

Hey Carl, again I mut say WoW...those are great photos you got there! and I agree with Voon Poop in liking the 'movement' of the men on the Mark IV - its cool to see the soldiers 'at work' - great buy!


A question though....(I don't know much about these types of photos)...but generally how do you know that they are the original images when buying them?

Is it the type of border around the edge of the photograph? or just a keen eye for detail, ageing etc? ......or is best to buy in person, so you can see them in real life?


Hi Andy-thank you for the nice compliment ;-)) Also,your correct on some of your assumptions on telling if original or not-plus knowin
g and having a knowledgable dealer you trust-agingon pics is easy to tell. You can see the age-yellowness-whether a pic was handeled a lot ot not by creases and such-to even smelling it. After collecting as many as I have over the years-it gets pretty easy to tell.

I was shafted once and learned from that experiance. Since then I gave all those pics away. I also use a Jewelers Loop to look at it more closely.

Hope this helps ;-))
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Posted 24 February 2009 - 02:24 AM

Ya thanks Carl,

Im guessing 99.99% of the ones you see on E-bay etc are copies so.
(I won't be buying any anyhow....even the fake ones are expencive at times ;))

I know what you mean about getting 'shafted'.....it's proubally a good thing when startn out collecting, for it to happen to you once as you learn to not let it happen again!!
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Posted 24 February 2009 - 02:25 AM

Carl do you know if there are any distinguishing notes on the back of each picture ? wondering whom and unit of the LW RK presentation
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Posted 24 February 2009 - 02:33 AM

The 8th picture, the one with the MP40, I've seen published in a few books. I'll look through my stuff and see if I can find it and scan a copy of it.. Very cool pics though

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 07:38 AM

Ebay has many original pictures available, unfortunately this is because dealers destroy albums to dispatch the pics one by one. Besides the pics may be original it does not mean much, many will have scanned them , especially previous owners, dealaers etc..) but owing a pic does not mean you own the negative , so many can claim they own it too. However if you get a small sized picture with AGFA or Lupex behind it , trimmed edges etc.. you can be certain your picture is not a repro.

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 10:05 AM

Really great pics! Many thanx for sharing them!!
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Posted 24 February 2009 - 08:39 PM

Ya thanks Carl,

Im guessing 99.99% of the ones you see on E-bay etc are copies so.
(I won't be buying any anyhow....even the fake ones are expencive at times ;))

I know what you mean about getting 'shafted'.....it's proubally a good thing when startn out collecting, for it to happen to you once as you learn to not let it happen again!!




Hi Andy, I got all of these from ebay. Each is definately the original which I can say for 100% sure also because i've dealt with all of these dealers in the past and they don't mess with repo or suspecious pics. I did see a number of rpos listed and I was told by three different Ebay people-that they do their best at making sure everybody is as accurate as possible w/ their descriptions and claims.

Also, it is against the law in certain countries to mis-represent or flat out lie-about items for sale. I get a good number of pics fromRussia, and a number from a dealer iv'e dealt with for years-who is in Florida. Skipperlisted below some good ways to tell if original or not-someof the pics im getting do have writing on back as well as various photographic stamps such as Agfa, Agfa-Lupez-and someI never had had any from before-that I will now;- 00 There's still bargains to be had-even on ebay-you just have to know where to look,when, and whom you feel comfortable in dealingwith. I have severalpic dealers I will buy from-and several I will not. Currently there are a few selling items that are original pix on CDs-and or high glossy reprints and such-those I will not buy-even if each pic was listed for a buck. I could do the samething by havingmy collection on photo CDs-then put them up for sale- but I will not. ;-))

Anyway, that onetime I got shafted-was one of my first buying experiances on ebay-and I got shafted by a guy in Canada-who was supposed tosend mean original Lobby Card fromthe movie: Where Eagles Dare-which showed Clint Eastwood with a knife to a German throat. That F****r intentionally mis-represented that item-soI gave the guy neg feedback.
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Posted 24 February 2009 - 08:45 PM

Carl do you know if there are any distinguishing notes on the back of each picture ? wondering whom and unit of the LW RK presentation



Hi E,some do-but I just can't think of which off-hand-cept for that pic showing PsGdrs mounting Panzers-which is a pic taken on one of the first days fighting at Kursk. I have the info writtendown as to which Pz Div those guys were in and will post it later after I finish writing it down which will probably be tomorrow before I can get to do so.

So far, im clueless about that LW RKT pic. The only thing I know for sure about the General is tat he is commander of whatever airfield they are at. I was hoping there was enough in the pic that would help give you a better idea on it :-)) since you know way much more about the LW-than I could probably ever learn ;-))
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Posted 24 February 2009 - 08:50 PM

The 8th picture, the one with the MP40, I've seen published in a few books. I'll look through my stuff and see if I can find it and scan a copy of it.. Very cool pics though



If you have Stalingrad: Cauldron of Fire-the picis on its cover lower left and center. I've seen it in a few other titles-just don't remember which ones? Also,when I have time to think about it,I know a guy who has published a few E/Front books whom I am going to contact and see if he can tell me more details to that pic. This guy also has the best website i've seen yet-about Stalingrad.
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Posted 24 February 2009 - 09:09 PM

Gents'

am just going to throw this out to ya for comment.

in the LW RK pic. note the RK Offizier congrats the two recipients, is that a Rumanian order on his lower right side of his tunic. also note aide de Cap or ? right sleeve cuff band. I truly doubt this is a Fighter pilot RK ceremony but could be one of the StG Stuka units and two bomber boyz are receving their RK's on the Ost front ........... when have no clue ? I say this as the farthest one in the Offiziers cap also has a ranked up number clasp on his upper left tunic

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