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#1 The_Historian

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 01:48 PM

Mind you it's from The Sun........;)
Her Hitler – ‘skull of Nazi leader’ is female | The Sun |News
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Posted 29 September 2009 - 02:17 PM

the plot thickens,the sun!

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 02:30 PM

Well, that explains why (s)he had only one ball then... ;)
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Posted 29 September 2009 - 02:46 PM

Yes, there was a recent TV program "Mysteryquest" which followed a geneticist from U of Conn to Moscow to examine the records. He was given 2 hours. He took blood swabs from Hitlers sofa and got to take several small pieces of the skull back to Conn.

The skull fragment he examined looked to him in Moscow that 1) it was a younger skull than the 57 yo Hitler's (the skull plates had not fully fused). And a part of the cranial base was very thin. He commented on camera that it appeared it was a female skull.

Back in the lab, the DNA team found that the DNA recovered from the skull was female and the blood from the sofa was male. Unfortunately, the team did not have a Hitler DNA profile and the living relatives in the US did not respond to the UofC's request for their DNA to compare to the male DNA from the blood found on the sofa.

in addition, a German computer animator used original blue prints to create a 3D redition of the Hitler's bunker. It was used to debunk "eye witness" reports of how Hitler died by his own hand. (Some reported hearing the gunshots in the upper bunker which was clearly improbable based on the 3-D reconstruction).

Anyway, did Adolf make it to SA? Maybe he lived out his days in a jungle retreat...

(There was a great Playboy cartoon of exactly that scenario years ago : All the old missing Nazi's were on the veranda of a hacienda surrounded by jungle. Hitler was looking old and mad, and martin Borman was saying to him...."but Adolf, that was a long time ago, just give it up"
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Posted 29 September 2009 - 03:09 PM

Well, that explains why (s)he had only one ball then... ;)

talking of hitlers nuts,this is amusing..
The Beagle Has Landed!

A stirring tale of canine courage from WWII;);)

A small cardboard box hidden away in a dusty storeroom at the Albert Hall
contains a forgotten relic of one of the most remarkable stories to come
out of the second world war. Amazingly, the hero of this story is not a
commando, fighter pilot or sea capta
in, but a tiny dog named Nipper...

London, 1945.
After 6 years of conflict, cracks were beginning to show in the morale of
the British public. During a concert at the Royal Albert Hall, forces'
sweetheart Vera Lynn stepped to the front of the stage and began to sing:
"Hitler. Has only got one ball. The
other. Is in the Albert Hall..." but before she could begin the second
verse, she was interrupted by an angry man in the crowd.
"That's what they keep on telling us," he yelled, "but where is it? I ain't
seen it!" His neighbour stood up and agreed.
"If they'd really got Adolf's knacker, they'd show us the perishin' thing.
I reckons it's all propaganda, an we're losin' this war an' no mistake!"
The crowd soon became an angry mob.
"What do we want? Hitler's ball! When do we want it? Now!" they chanted.

The very next day, Prime Minister Winston Churchill summoned Dambusters
hero Neville Barnes Wallis to his office.
"Professor" he announced gravely, "I cannot overemphasise the importance to
Britain's morale of securing one of the Fuhrer's clockweights." The boffin
was given just one week to mount a mission to seize one of Hitler's
testicles and bring it back to the Albert Hall.
Walking home through Hyde Park, Barnes Wallis puzzled over the problem.
"Hitler's gonads are the most heavily fortified in Europe. His pants are
literally impregnable. No allied soldier could get within 50 miles of them
with a pair of secateurs." Suddenly
, his eyes fell upon a small dog retrieving a rubber ball thrown by its
owner. "By jove!" he cried. "I know how it can be done!"
the professor's brilliant brainwave was to parachute a small dog into
Berlin, where it would penetrate the rigid security around the animal
loving Fuhrer's bunker. After ripping off one of Hitler's nuts, the dog was
to carry it back to England, where it w
ould be displayed to the public at the Albert Hall. Hundreds of dogs were
brought to Aldershot and put through their paces by Barnes Wallis. But it
was a little beagle named Nipper who, through small in stature, stood head
and shoulders above the rest. Du
ring his intensive training for the mission, the plucky fellow never once
failed to sever a dummy pod from the decoy Hitler.
"Well done, lad. I think you're ready," announced Barnes Wallis. "You
parachute into Berlin tonight." The brave little dog wagged his tail
eagerly.
Nipper was taken from Aldershot to Gracie Fields house in Oldham, where he
was given the scent of Hitler's scrotum by sniffing her chin. Then he was
flown in a Halifax bomber deep into enemy territory. At dead of night he
was dropped from 35,000 feet dire
ctly over the Reichstag. "Fetch the ball, boy!" shouted Barnes Wallis above
the roar of the engines as he pulled the beagle's little ripcord.

Will Nipper retrieve the one of the dictators pills?

Will he land? at all?

Who knows, and who cares!

find out in the next exciting installment of

The Beagle has Landed!!!!:D:D:D:D

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 03:17 PM

Is this what he (oops she )looked like?

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 03:24 PM

What about the jaw bone? Is that from Hitler?
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Posted 29 September 2009 - 03:34 PM

wow thanks for the post thats very interesting

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 07:00 PM

Here's an interesting site with Hitler Trivia.....

(Do you really "know" Adolf?):eek:


Adolf Hitler Trivia - Adolf Hitler Information and Facts


I'm not sure how factual the "facts" really are, but fun reading...
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Posted 29 September 2009 - 08:02 PM

Mayhaps the piece the Russians donated to the man from Conn. was from Eva instead of Adolf? Hard to tell bone from bone until it is examined closely, and Eva's skull suture lines may not have fully fused, she was much younger than Adolf afterall.
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Posted 29 September 2009 - 10:08 PM

Yes, that was my thought about a female skull too. Are there any living relatives of Eva for a possible DNA match?
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Posted 30 September 2009 - 11:35 AM

Mayhaps the piece the Russians donated to the man from Conn. was from Eva instead of Adolf? Hard to tell bone from bone until it is examined closely, and Eva's skull suture lines may not have fully fused, she was much younger than Adolf afterall.


Yes, that was my thought about a female skull too. Are there any living relatives of Eva for a possible DNA match?

If it were Eva, then who put the bullet in her head? Why would you shoot a woman who's been dead for a week?
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Posted 30 September 2009 - 12:53 PM

If it were Eva, then who put the bullet in her head? Why would you shoot a woman who's been dead for a week?



Maybe the Russians wanted to be SURE she was really dead and not playing possum?:D
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Posted 30 September 2009 - 02:59 PM

i saw this in the paper and i was looking at what it said and it said the part of the falklands war was to try and hide this secret antartic base where hitler was taken by 2 germans submarines after the fall of berlin. i thought it was rather strange that it said this about the germans. if anybody needs to know anymore information which isnt stated in the paper link i still have the newspaper.

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 03:01 PM

Maybe the Russians wanted to be SURE she was really dead and not playing possum?:D



that is actually a good point the russians often did this to make sure there enemys were dead (infact 1/4 of russian ammo was spent on dead bodies

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 03:53 PM

Me thinks this is getting silly, Texson was joking Smithson:rolleyes:
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Posted 30 September 2009 - 04:06 PM

Me thinks this is getting silly, Texson was joking Smithson:rolleyes:



oh well lol

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Posted 02 October 2009 - 01:01 PM

Biggest secret of ww2 is no longer a secret...

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Posted 02 October 2009 - 01:13 PM

R.I.P.THE SUN!!

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Posted 02 October 2009 - 01:22 PM

this is his skull 100%...:rolleyes:;););):D

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 02:43 PM

Just saw the program on Finnish tv. Too bad they did not get DNA samples from living Hitler´s relatives as that would be very interesting to see if the blood on the sofa matches....
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Posted 05 June 2011 - 03:06 PM

Skull kind of looks like the run of the mill, regular, average, hermaphrodite skull, don't it? Now my curiosity is raised.....do we have a DNA chain identified that would indicate that? Your post has me thinking all matter of inconsequential thought.

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 03:31 PM

In the program they got DNA extracted both from the skull and sofa. There was XX in the skull DNA so it is a female skull.From the sofa XY.
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Posted 05 June 2011 - 06:36 PM

Kinda conclusive then, kai!
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Posted 05 June 2011 - 06:43 PM

I think the problem here may well be that the section the former Soviet Union submitted for testing may have been from Eva, there is no guarantee that the chunk they allowed to be removed was from the section with the bullet hole remember. It was all done under their supervision, the outside testing labs just had to take their word for which skull section the sample came from.

One piece of skull probably looks much like any other of similar age. If the blood is XY then that is the end of the blood question, if the skull section was from Eva (who knows it wasn't?), that would be the XX answer as well. Then the mitochondrial DNA comparison with other Braun family members should answer that as well.
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