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#1 tovarisch

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 08:32 AM

Can anybody tell me the history of the modern West Ham FC logo? I mean, the crossed hammers are there 'cause the club was founded as Thames Ironworks FC, but why the castle and claret and blue? The colours are pretty historical and they've got to mean something, it's just plain heraldry, isn't it?

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 10:03 AM

this should explain it.
West Ham United - Historical Football Kits

scroll down for explaination at the bottom, I think the castle is to do with the Old Castle Swifts FC.
http://en.wikipedia....stle_Swifts_F.C.

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 10:39 AM

Well, there's no Wikipedia article about Old Castle Swifts :(

And I get the idea that those were the colours, but why claret and blue?
Do the actual colours mean anything from the point of view of heraldry? Like, red in heraldry always stood for bravery, blood, gallance etc., used on countless flags, coats of arms, banners and so on.

Oh, hold on, there's text underneath the kits. Whoops. Again. Sorry :)

Edited by tovarisch, 17 January 2010 - 10:41 AM.
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Posted 18 January 2010 - 12:08 PM

I'd heard it was to do with Thames Bank Iron Co./Old Ford iron Co, hence WHUFC being called the Irons.........??
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#5 tovarisch

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 11:11 AM

There is a story that in the summer of 1899 Bill Dove, a sprinter of national repute who was involved in coaching the Ironworks team, was challenged to a race with four Aston Villa players at a fair in Birmingham. Dove won but the Villa men could not pay the wager so one of them pinched a set of claret and blue shirts from his club (he was responsible for doing the laundry) to settle the bet. There is, however, no evidence that the team ever wore their new shirts.


Lol :) so basically West Ham nicked their current strip from Villa?

I know they're called the Irons, and the Hammers too, I just wanted to know why the strip was specifically claret and blue. Anyway, cheers for the post. ;)

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 11:59 AM

The Irons eh

There was a time in London when calling someone an "iron" might get you thumped :D

You need to know your rhyming slang to understand.

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#7 tovarisch

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 07:14 AM

Lol :D I know what you're on about :)

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 07:43 AM

Iron Hoof = poof = gay man

#9 tovarisch

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 12:46 PM

I knew that :) :o

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 01:02 PM

up the hammers good chant,up the irons! not nice.;);):rolleyes:

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 02:25 PM

I knew that :) :o


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What - you have cockney rhyming slang in Moscow ?

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#12 tovarisch

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 11:34 AM

Well, I'm pretty acquainted with the rhyming slang, I've got a couple of friends from London, they've helped me get to know it I guess. But I'm no pro :) I just asked someone I knew about the Irons thing :) But in Moscow we speak Russian on the most part :D

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 11:35 AM

up the hammers good chant,up the irons! not nice.;);):rolleyes:


lol does 'come on u irons' fall in the same category? :)

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 08:04 PM

lol does 'come on u irons' fall in the same category? :)


Quite possibly :eek:

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 11:21 AM

:D they sing that all the time @ Upton Park :D




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