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#1 nachtjager61

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 04:47 PM

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Erich "Bubi" Hartmann, 352 victories on Eastern Front (disputed)


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Gerd Barkhorn, 301 victories on Eastern Front


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Gunter Rall, 275 victories, 271 on Eastern Front


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Wilhelm "Willi" Batz, 237 victories


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Erich Rudorffer, 222 victories, 12 with ME262, 10 heavy bombers


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Hermann Graf, 212 victories


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Walter Schuck, 206 victories, 8 with the ME262

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 06:03 PM

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Walter Krupinski, 197 victories


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Gunther Josten, 178 victories


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Johannes "Mackey" Steinhoff, 176 victories with 6 in the ME262


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Ernst-Wilhelm Reinert, 174 victories


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Gunther Schack, 174 victories


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Gerd Thyben, 157 victories

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 06:53 PM

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Peter Duettmann, 152 victories


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Fritz Tegtmeier, 146 victories


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Rudolf Trenkel, 138 victories


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Walter Wolfrum, 137 victories


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Adolf Dickfeld, 136 victories


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Alfred Grislawski, 133 victories


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Johannes Wiese, 133 victories with 75 more unconfirmed, 70 IL2 Sturmoviks "Cementers"

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 09:16 PM

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Franz Eisenach, 129 victories


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Friedrich Oblesser, 127 victories


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Dietrich Hrabak, 125 victories


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Herbert Ihlefeld, 137 victories, 7 in Spain, 15 heavy bombers


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Heinz Marquardt, 121 victories, 12 in one day


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Franz-Josef Beerenbrock, 117 victories, shot down
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Wilhelm "Willi" Crinius, 114 victories

Edited by nachtjager61, 16 July 2010 - 07:11 PM.

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#5 Erich

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 09:22 PM

super pics Lacy thanks for sharing your huge collection. interesting I have a rather large pic of A. Dickfeld but his sig looks nothing like yours in the pic, tired or bad day I suppose
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 09:53 PM

Erich,
The signature often depends on how old they were when they signed it.
I have the envelope and a letter from him (Dickfeld) that this pic was sent with so I know it should be good. This example of Dickfeld that I posted is very recent, he is well into his 80s or 90s when he signed this photo, I will post and earlier Dickfeld I have to compare with.
There are all kinds of things to consider with autographs, for example;
With Hermann Graf, he came down with Parkinson's in 1961 and as the years progressed, until he passed, his signature got worse and shakier with the years until it was almost illegible.
I have an early Hajo Hermann signature that is nice and sharp and an older more recent one that is more angular and sketchy.
Another thing that happend as these guys got older is their family members signed the photos for them. In Europe this is considered acceptable but it is best if you know that ahead of time.
Their signatures also change with time for some of them and for some of us as well. My signature has changed about 4 times over the past 30 years and originally it was round and looped now I sign very angularly and straight up and down instead of slanted.
I have examples of Rudel's signatures from the 1960's, 70's and 80's before his stroke and they changed with each decade.
So these are some things you have to look out for if you are a collector of autographs not only from WW2 heroes but with any celebrity.

here is an earlier Dickfeld to compare.

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Here are 3 samples of Hermann Graf's signatures that changed as he got older and his Parkinson's became more dibilitating

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These are all Hermann Graf signatures from reliable sources and you can see the difference. If you compare a war time signed Graf it is a real nice flowing and fancy signature.

This is why I try to find the earliest "post war" signatures that I can find. A lot of people would mail these guys in the late 90's and into the 2000 decade but the signatures they got back were not real nice and flowing like the german script that they signed with 30 or more years ago.

I finally took my pics to Kinko's to scan them all and I am downloading them onto photobucket so I can do these post in a much more organized manner now that I have the posting figured out

sorry for the duplicates from earlier post and the excessive posts I did before I figured out how to post more than one picture per thread

Edited by nachtjager61, 16 July 2010 - 07:17 PM.

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#7 Erich

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 11:00 PM

yes I was looking at some od pics from the 60's and some of the guys barely hanging on and their writing skills have declined over many years, so have mine.

one of them was Hadeball's, who used to use his full name till the last months then it was his last name only
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 11:43 PM

Schulz and most of the U 124 crew were on U 64 when she sank just off the Norwegian coastline during the Norway Campaign. The Gebirgsjäger helped rescue Schulz and all but 8 of U 64's crew.

Once Schulz and the survivors commissioned U 124, he adopted the Gebirgsjäger Edelweiss emblem to honor his rescuers.


Many thanks for the info !
Nikto ne Zabyt . Nichto ne Zabyto. Let no one forget . Let nothing be forgotten.

Always looking to buy Militaria / documents related to the Battle of Narva 1944 and Infanterie Regt 15 , 29 ( Mot) Infanterie Division.

#9 nachtjager61

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 05:00 AM

well after spending about 5 hours today working on photo bucket to upload my photos that I just scanned at kinkos it appears photo bucket has banned my account and I am not sure why.
does anyone know if photo bucket considers photos of german ww2 pilots to be offensive material?
any input would be appreciated
thank you
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Posted 01 July 2010 - 06:51 PM

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Werner Schroer, 114 victories, 102 on the
Western Front, 61 in Africa and 26 bombers


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Kurt "bu-mann" Buhligen, 112 victories


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Franz Woidich, 110 victories


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Adolf Galland, 103 victories all on Western Front, 7 in the ME262


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Reinhard "Seppl "Seiler, 118 victories with 9 night time victories and 9 in Spain


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Wolfgang Spate, 99 victories, Head of the Me163 Komet testing program, 5 victories in the Me262


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Helmut Ruffler, 98 victories, 12 on Western front


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Heinrich "Pritzel" Bar and Gustav Rodel, signed by Rodel who had 98 victories with 97 of them on the Western Front, 12 were heavy bombers, Rodel won the Spanish Cross in Bronze with Swords in the Spanish Civil War fighting with J88, Rodel fought in Poland, France, Battle of Britain, Balkans, Greece, Russia and Africa,


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Hermann Schleinhege, 97 victories


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Diethelm von Eichel-Schreiber, 96 victories

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 08:13 PM

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Helmut Bennemann, 93 victories


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Edmund "Paule" Rossmann, 93 victories


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Oskar "Ossi" Romm, 92 victories


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Hans "Specker" Grunberg, 82 victories


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Hugo Broch, 81 victories


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Georg-Peter Eder, 78 victories, 12 in the ME262 and
36 heavy bombers, flew 150 ME262 sorties


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Maximilian Mayerl, 76 victories


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Johannes Pichler, 75 victories

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 08:37 PM

Great pics! Thank you for sharing them.

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#13 nachtjager61

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 09:09 PM

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Adolf "Addi" Glunz, 72 victories, 19 heavy bombers


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Heinz Lange, 70 victories


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Fritz Losigkeit, 68 victories


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Rolf Hermichen, 64 victories, 26 Heavy Bombers


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Hans-Eckehard Bob, 60 victories


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Hermann Buchner, 58 victories, 12 Heavy Bombers


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Hugo Dahmer, 57 victories


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Hermann Wolf, 57 victories

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 09:48 PM

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Gunter Seeger, 56 victories, 8 Heavy Bombers


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Fritz Karch, 47 victories, 21 Heavy Bombers


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Gunther Rubell, 47 victories


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Karl Rammelt, 46 victories, 11 Heavy Bombers


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Ernst Borngen, 45 victories, 16 Heavy Bombers


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Gerhard Schoepfel, 45 victories, All on Western Front


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Robert Olejnik, 41 victories


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Wolf-Dieter Huy, 40 victories

Edited by nachtjager61, 22 July 2010 - 07:02 PM.

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#15 Erich

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 10:05 PM

seems your photobucket acct is re-activated then ? could be the swastika symbol that is objectionable
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Posted 01 July 2010 - 10:29 PM

Erich,
that is what I am thinking that they find the swastika offensive but that is just ignorance, we can watch saving private ryan, or the inglorious bastards, history channel and many other things about ww2 which show this symbol in a historical sense, not glorifying the nazi party or the belief system of former or present "nazi's"
I wrote to them and told them I was just uploading WW2 photos of pilots and aces from different countries and had no affiliation with any "nazi" organization nor was I promoting that aspect. This was just photos of the war which is something that occurred, is a historical fact and just showing pics of the war or the people who fought in it is no way a political or belief system view of things.
they are just war pics
they still will not tell me what specific term of policy that they claim I violated and I have asked them to clarify this 3 times now.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 05:33 AM

Seems like you got the pics back. Thanx for sharing them!
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 11:14 AM

indeed, fantastic collection, thanks for showing
All the Best,

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#19 nachtjager61

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Posted 03 July 2010 - 06:36 AM

thanks everyone. It is nice to find people who can appreciate my collection, thanks for looking and for your comments

photobucket emailed me and appolagized saying that since they were historical military photos that they would be okay with them

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Posted 07 July 2010 - 04:46 PM

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Stefan Litjens, 36 victories, Campaings in; Battle of Britain, Western Front, Eastern Front, Malta and Africa


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Walter Loos, 38 victories, 22 Heavy Bombers


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Hans Weik, 36 victories, 22 Heavy Bombers


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Bruno Stolle, 35 victories


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Karl Kennel, 34 victories, ground attack pilot


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Willi Reschke, 26 victories, 20 Heavy Bombers


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Willi Unger, 24 victories in 59 sorties, all Heavy Bombers


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Leo Schumacher, 23 victories, Bf110 Ace

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Johannes Schalk, 21 victories, Bf110 Ace


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Georg Christl, 19 victories, Bf110 Ace

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Posted 07 July 2010 - 05:47 PM

Great collection, Nachtjager!
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Posted 07 July 2010 - 07:00 PM

for informative purposes only Walter Loos kills listing is up for speculation according to his personal flugbuch he may have scored only 1 kill if that flying for Stab./JG 301 on the Ta 152H-1, also his victories while on stab./JG 300 flying the Fw 190A-8
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Posted 07 July 2010 - 07:47 PM

I see Photobucket is once again confused between historical photos of WW2 veterans and photos with a political agenda. I thought this issue was resolved but they have deleted them once again. I would imagine someone has viewed them publically and complained that they were offended. Offended by history and historical facts, I guess!
I guess my photobucket was set to public viewing and apparantly if someone views your photos and objects to any of them Photobucket can delete the image regardless as to whether you violated any of their terms and policies or not. Just one person out there can say 'oh I find this or that offensive or I don't like these photos and "boom" photobucket will delete them even if no policy has been violated. so now I have my photobucket albums set to private and photobucket claims to have restored my images but they are not showing up on my photobucket account nor are they showing up on here or any other sites that I have posted them on. So all the time I spent cropping, posting and labeling the images has been a waste,
Yah I am pissed off about this, I spent hours and hours going to Kinkos to scan my photos, uploading them one at a time onto photobucket, editing and cropping them one at a time and them posting them here and labeling them only to have it all disappear.

Edited by nachtjager61, 07 July 2010 - 09:20 PM.

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 08:30 PM

Hi Lacy I hav ecreated a seperate thread for you here upon your request. I started with Hatmann , I hope I didn't mess up and leave pics in the wrong section. Thanks again for sharing these pics with us and I am glad I could contribute , so you can keep on doing the good job

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