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#1 leelad03

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 07:19 PM

We all know about the Tiger that can move and has featured in BOB & SPR films/programme, which is located at Bovington Tank Musium in England, Are there any other Tigers or even Panthers that can still move or fire?
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(also one other thing i have always wanted to find out is has anyone ever tried to rebuild or restore a stukka?)

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 07:33 PM

The Bovington Tiger is the only Tiger in the world that can still move under it's own power and, interestingly, Bovington had to pull the Maybach HL 230 out of their King Tiger to get it running again after they blew up the original motor. Go here for the full Bovington Tiger story (interesting reading!).

Supposedly, there's a running King Tiger in France at the Musee des Blindes. Go here for a relatively current list of surviving Tigers and King Tigers (Dial-up users, caution! Large PDF file!).

I believe there are at least two or three Panthers still in running order, and at least one that I know of currently under restoration to running status.

Edited by Stitchy, 18 August 2010 - 08:22 PM.

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 07:40 PM

Tiger 131 from Bovington never featured in any war films mate, unless you count public information films of the Forties.

Look to another of the Shadock's lists for Movie prop Tiggers:
http://the.shadock.free.fr/Repros.pdf

His lists of other armour survivors/runners are usually pretty solid too:
The Shadock's website

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 08:40 PM

This is a little off the subject, but I just discovered a truly awsome armor collection not too far from me in the Bay Area that (now) includes a running Panther Ausf. A; go here for photos & info. This is one place I would LOVE to visit someday! The problem would be getting me out of there! Here's some info on the place: Jacques Littlefield Military Vehicle Collection. Page 1 of 3
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Posted 28 August 2010 - 01:03 AM

There was a show on Jaques' Panther restoration called "Tank Overhaul". Its been on the Military Channel quite a bit lately. Its also on YouTube. Here is part 1: A search for "Panther Tank Overhaul" should turn up the rest.


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Posted 28 August 2010 - 07:28 AM

The King Tiger here in Saumur does indeed run perfectly, and it's as awesome a sight now as it must have been back in the day!

Website - Tigre II - Le musée des blindés Hear the roar of the Maybach engine!
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 12:35 PM

Jacques Littlefield passed away last January; Here's hoping his 200+ vehicles remain open to public viewing.

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 01:56 AM

With regards to the OP,

The Tigers in SPR and BOB were T-34s made up to look like Tigers, the did the same thing in the movie "Kelly's Heroes"

There is a 7/10 scale replica Stuka that flies in the US, google "N87LL" for more information on it. IIRC, there were also 1 or 2 3/4scale replicas flying in Russia.

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 08:57 PM

For years it was assumed that none of the surviving Stukas could ever fly - but last year a still photograph in Flypast magazine of Hendon's G2 being prepared for the film The Battle of Britain caused some consternation! Since then, I note the Wiki entry has been amended...




  • Ju 87 G-2, Werk Nr. 494083.
A later, ground-attack variant, this is displayed at the RAF Museum in London; it was captured by British troops in Germany in 1945. It is thought to have been built in 1943–1944 as a D-5 before being rebuilt as a G-2 variant, possibly by fitting G-2 outer wings to a D-5 airframe. After the war, it was one of 12 captured German aircraft selected by the British for museum preservation. In 1967, permission was given to use the aircraft in the film Battle of Britain and it was repainted and modified to resemble a 1940 variant of the Ju 87. The engine was found to be in excellent condition and there was little difficulty in starting it, but returning the aircraft to airworthyness was ultimately too costly for the filmmakers, and two highly modified Percival Proctors were used in the film to represent Stukas


It's not impossible that Hendon's G-2 COULD still be restored to flyworthiness, given that it's been in the best of dry storage ever since! But given that it's in the RAF Museum at Hendon, it's unlikely ever to find its way now into private hands for another attempt :(

The film company had to alter their flying Spitfires ALL to resemble MkVBs - this was the commonest variant in their "airforce!" so altered all the others to MKVB appearance LOL - and to build a large number of ground-running replicas etc.....hence no money to do anything more than get the engine running on G-2. As it was, only ONE of the "Proctukas" ever flew - and once only, the pilot refused to fly it again it was so dangerous! :) Instead, a number of scale models were used for the Stukas in flight in the film.

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 09:06 PM

There remains one more option...

Sir Tim Wallis in New Zealand had the centre section and rear fuselage/tail of a Ju87 w/nr 6234 (R4), L1+FW ex-Russia, where at least one other example in relatively complete condition has also been recovered. In 2004, 6234 was registered as G-STUK to Glenn Lacey in Epsom, Surrey-registration later cancelled-remains with Deutches Technik Museum.


Sir Tim for many years funded the now-defunct (after his death) Highland Fighter Collection in NZ, and IIRC sold on the Stuka-and-a-bit to fund some of the HFC's later flightworthy restorations - a pair of Ratas and a Hurricane IIRC. Again, it's a pity that 6234 is now in the hands of a museum...


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Posted 24 November 2010 - 05:35 PM

Theres more than one running Tiger. Also, there are at least two owned by AAmericans that I can think of, both are Billionnaires, one in Calif the other up North somewhere. Also, a German Museum in Munster or Munich??? I forget which?? was selling their Tiger about 10 years ago.
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Posted 24 November 2010 - 08:28 PM

The King Tiger here in Saumur does indeed run perfectly, and it's as awesome a sight now as it must have been back in the day!

Website - Tigre II - Le musée des blindés Hear the roar of the Maybach engine!


I missed this first time around....Wow ! Fantastic stuff.....:cool:
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Posted 25 November 2010 - 08:46 AM

Here in Chicago we have had a Stuka and a Spitfire hanging from the ceilling of the Museum of Science and Industry for many years. And for all you U-boat fans the U-505 has been moved in doors and restored. You can walk around it and also tour the interior. These displays are outstanding and if you are ever in Chicago,they are a must see. The 1st division (Big Red One) museum has an excellent outdoor display of armour and a great museum with a recreated WW1 trench system that you can walk through. This located about 30mileswest of the city in Cantigney Park in Wheaton.
And finally if you wantto see warbirds fly take in the EAA convention in Oshgosh Wisconsin at the end of July.WW1 to F117 fly at this event along with formations of P51s,B17s,P47s,P40s and on occasion a P38.Ifyou are amember you can walk the flight line.Watch your six, Bob

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 10:12 PM

I wonder how hard it would be to get,find original parts for a Tiger, there must be somewere never been descovered before which locate all different things were ever they used to build tanks in germany..

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Posted 05 December 2010 - 09:18 AM

I wouldn't bank on it. As with original WWII aircraft parts, there will be a dedicated 'underground network' by which any parts are located by and sold between collectors/museums/restorers etc.
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Posted 05 December 2010 - 02:10 PM

Martin's on the money there.
You'd be surprised just how much effort goes into the hunt Leelad, by people far better resourced than the average nerd.
Magnetometers to the East etc.
The background alleged skullduggery that sometimes appears to go on, perhaps underlines the rarity.

Theres more than one running Tiger.

'Tiger', or 'Tiger b/King Tiger'?
There is only one running original 'Tiger', and that's at Bovington.

The Wheatcroft Collection has announced an intention to build a King Tiger from bits. I was sure it was mentioned in an interview with their main man on HMVF a while back too, but can't seem to find it now.
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http://www.wheatcrof...n.com/home.html
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Posted 05 December 2010 - 02:41 PM

Thanks, Adam ! I couldn't remember the name of the collection when I posted....:o

Looks like they haven't followed up that Panther book they did two years ago....:(

Ah, well - looks like with my budget I'll be sticking to 1/35 scale.....:rolleyes:
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Posted 15 December 2010 - 05:21 PM

Hi Adam, I was referring to Tigers and not their bigger brothers ;-))

PS, Long time no see and hope things are going well for you? Take care--Carl.
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Posted 09 June 2011 - 04:09 AM

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Tiger II at Munster Panzer Museum Etc.!! YouTube - ‪WWII Surviving Panzers - Tiger,Konigstiger,Jagdtiger,Sturmtiger,Elefant&Ferdinand - list & photos‬‏
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Posted 21 June 2011 - 02:09 AM

Actually, believe it or not the Tiger featured in BOB and SPR was a converted T-34 and is owned by the 9th SS reenactment group. And guess what, I've seen it up close and in battle:metalhead: http://www.9thsspanz...andE/Tiger.html




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