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Discussion in 'The Stump' started by Ilhawk, Apr 17, 2016.

  1. Ilhawk

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    Not surprised.

    but, but Obama says its getting better.
     
  3. Ilhawk

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    Pew Research
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  4. Takao

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    And...The rich are getting poorer too.

    And the financial papers are talking of a tech bubble burst similar to the dot com implosion of the late 90's.

    This could be trouble for whom ever gets elected in November.
     
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    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    This chart seems to show that individuals are beginning to do better. https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/MEPAINUSA672N
    I think data can be massaged to show what you want. I had an old professor who was fond of saying "figures lie but liars figure". I tend not to trust any figures, no matter their origin.
    I'm not imputing any motive on your part, but figures are mutable.
     
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  6. Ilhawk

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    That chart does show that for sure. The trend line would be much higher though that what it is now.
     
  7. Poppy

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    In regards to the first indeed it doesn't but that it even implies it rather challenges your position does it not?

    In regards to the second, could you say that again with a complete (English) sentence this time?
     
  9. Ilhawk

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    Sorry you can't read English. Not my fault.

    One chart is personal, the other is household, which implies family. Families are not doing as well.

    Either way, both are way below trend line.

    Do you need a definition of trend line or are you capable of looking that up.

    You first sentence sounds like gibberish. Nonsensical.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzXPWZ0HKts
     
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    That's certainly not standard English or a complete sentence.
     
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    The post you were replying to took the opposite position from you on the matte, using information you supplied. The fact that you replied was weak "it didn't prove" their position makes it rather clear that it doesn't prove and indeed implies that it didn't support yours.
     
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    I think you could figure it out. Stop being an idiot. Try actually providing information beyond generalities off of wiki and insults.

    You also were perfectly able to figure out the charts. Some people are just jerks. Stop being a jerk. Post relevance. Anyone can be good at critical response.
     
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    I could guess at what you were trying to say. I prefer not to though. If you can't state it plainly then I'll ask for clarification. Words and sentence structure are important in conveying information. I'd expect you to do the same if I garbled something up.

    The generality, that you are not proving your positions/conclusions is perfectly reasonable to point out and I will continue to do so when you imply that the data supports far more substantive conclusions than it does (PLS note that this doesn't explicitly mean you are wrong it just allows for that possibility). If you consider pointing out holes in your facts and logic being a jerk I guess that's ok. Don't expect me to stop just because you don't like it though. And as for insults you are throwing a lot more around than I am as far as I can see both veiled and not.

    *** edited to improve clarity and wording ***
     
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    Snark will not be tolerated. Consider yourselves advised. I would hate to give warning points, but I'm not opposed to it.
     
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    Like both Il and L 's posts.
    Spelling and small phraseology isn't a big dealio when smart guys write- quickly.
    I understood what Il was meaning.
    Sometimes loose and lose are used incorrectly by L, but nobody brings it up. Often see too and to mixed up as well.
    i often don't use correct punctuation, hate question marks and just am glad to be tolerated here.
     
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    Not sure I really care. The only time you respond is when he gets snarky. If he continues to do it, I will continue to respond accordingly. I am not the one starting, but will not just let him do it. Get him to stop or ban me. That simple.
     
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    Am a fan of Ilhawk. He speaks his mind and asks for respect as he affords.
    Don't want to lose another interesting fellow.
     
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    Where's Takao's terminator guy when you need'em. I just made a typo and got the big guy...
     
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    Buten...You did more a lot more than make a typo.
     
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    Lord forgive me for I know not what I done.
     

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