How different was life in the 1930's/1940's REALLY?
Posted 13 April 2005 - 03:05 PM
Somehow nostalgia sets in and one starts to think that people were better back then, more polite, friendlier, etc.
Life wasnt easier but it was calmer, quieter, etc.
I wonder how much difference there really is between daily life back then and now, and Im not talking about the poverty and harshness, but the attitudes, how people behaved, how streets looked, how people dated, etc.
Behaviour in general, was the thin layer of farnish we call civilization thicker back then?
Posted 13 April 2005 - 03:17 PM
But my Mother, who lived through the 'Blitz' in London, certainly maintains that people were generally more open to each other's needs and problems.
There was a strong feeling of National unity of purpose ( 'we're all in it together' ) and a greater willingness to help strangers while expecting nothing in return.
She very much regrets that in the society of today people seem more self-centred with little concern for others, and appear obsessed with trivial things.
Posted 13 April 2005 - 04:53 PM
And there was no TV, computers, VCR's, microwaves,air conditioning,and education levels were lower as most did not complete high school and women, blacks and hispanics did not go to college in general. Also Catholics and Jews were looked down on by Protestants. Oriental people also lived in a lower standard of living than whites and did manual labor type jobs.
Medical services were not avaible to blacks at white hospitals and medical service in general was much poorer than today. People used to die from appendiciced on a regular basis due to no antibiotics back then. Women died in child birth due to infection and blood loss. Children died due to direrria as well as adults.
Other than all of that things were just fine.
Posted 14 April 2005 - 12:44 AM
Notwithstanding that, during World War II I lived in New York, New Jersey, Alabama. and Texas. During those years, I remember the name and person of only one schoolmate.
Kenneth Harper. He was my best friend. He was a Negro, I was a 'white'. Kenny lived in an alley near the school. I lived in a reasonably well-off neighborhood some distance away. I was always welcome in his home after school.
It was Kenny's example that led me to always answer my mother with "Yes, Ma'am" or "No, Ma'am". And, for that, the Harpers had my mother's thanks and respect as well.
'marloes' asks, "was the thin layer of [varnish] we call civilization thicker back then?" I believe so. When, other than in major cities, did you start locking your doors at night?
Posted 14 April 2005 - 03:07 PM
"A mon fils: depuis que tes yeux sont fermes les miens n’ont cessé de pleurir." - Mère française, Verdun
Posted 15 April 2005 - 08:07 AM
FA cup Wembley Final 1923
Posted 15 April 2005 - 11:37 AM
Every age has its pros and cons.
I can give you a long list of things that are wrong with todays world!
But yes from talking to people who lived back then and from simply listening to old radio, watching old news programmes, etc.
One does get the idea that people back then were more polite, less hurried, less spoiled, more social towards eachother, etc.
Posted 16 April 2005 - 05:57 AM
Actually in 1998 I was in an Arsenal-game in London and all the way to the sub the road was lined by Police men and I definitely had no thoughts of starting a riot....I think if I had even looked at a police man they would have arrested me...
Posted 16 April 2005 - 10:38 AM
Fans had a good fight and then all went home, I think none of them even would dream of bothering people in the area around the football field, destroy trains or even be drunk out of their minds.
A bit of fisty-cuffs and then off to the pub.
The proper scum that wanted to cause real trouble would simply join one of the extreme parties and go march.
When I see hooligans today I often think, thats the kind of bastards you would have seen in the SA or the blackshirts and the likes of that.
Posted 21 April 2005 - 10:09 AM
Saying that, I think even with all the diseases of the time not then conqured (then again we have made new ones for ourselves today) the threat of war even between Britian and Turkey at one stage, the lifespans, the smogs, poverty, lack of technology etc, on and on and on....I cannot help but think socially, in what we probably called the civilised nations, civilised by us of course....all others were not civilised because they were not us....nationalism everywhere....the folk of the 30's and 40's were probably living a better life than us today. I suppose having to live with all the threats around at the time, made them live for the day if they could?
My parents would agree with Martins perception, and the stories from my own mum, of the Blitz in Liverpool, and the crowds exiting the city at night, to the outskirts where she lived, slepping in the roads and fields for safety, and what the people of the suburbs did to help them prove to me their society was much stronger than ours today
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