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#1 Mussolini

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Posted 20 November 2005 - 03:51 AM

I recently acquired a Militaria Item - an Iron Cross reportedly from WWI. I'll get pictures of it up here real soon. ITs about an inch/inch and a half big. On the top segment of the cross it has a crown, with FW under it. With a 3 leaf plant or something with what look like acorns underneath the center part where the 3 leaves join. Below that is the numbers: 1813. On the other side (not sure which is front) is the same crown, with a big W in the middle. On the bottom are 4 more numbers: 1914 or 1814...the '8-9' is a little distorted due to rust/dirt/damage. Theres a metallic ring on the top of it, and looking very closely at it, you can see a KO inscribed on it. Will try my best to get some dcent pictures with a digital camera.

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Posted 20 November 2005 - 07:55 AM

Congrats on your find, Mussolini !

The iron ring often contains a tiny, stamped number or L/-- marking which indicates the manufacturer.

This website may help you to identify the medal -

http://www.wehrmacht...oncrossmain.htm
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Posted 20 November 2005 - 07:33 PM

Thanks for the link! Seems like most of the links on that page are still under construction. Did some more research and looks likes its an Iron Cross from the Napoleonic Wars...due to the date and Oak Leaves. Not sure what 'Class' though as all the pictures of the different classes look the same. Any way to tell? Maybe the stuff on the back? Also, i am pretty sure its Authentic but cant tell for sure since i am not knowledgeable on the matter. Also got it for about 40$ on Ebay so...

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Posted 20 November 2005 - 08:01 PM

The Napoleonic Era Classifications:
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Posted 21 November 2005 - 02:19 PM

Well, browsing around EBAY this morning and i find an Iron Cross that looks identical to the one i have. http://cgi.ebay.com/...1QQcmdZViewItem
Theres the link.

However, would it make sense to have two different dates on it. 1813 and 1814 (or 1914)

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Posted 29 January 2006 - 06:13 AM

That looks like a nice find there. My friend has some family who fought in WW2 and brought back a bunch of stuff they confiscated from German soldiers. Supposedly, they have some medals ( iron crosses ) but he wont let me into his tool shed to get them. Sadly, they sit, locked up in a shed, neglected. Those are pieces of history. :mad:
Is that a ww2 cross, or from another era?

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 04:20 AM

Your Iron Cross is a SECOND CLASS. The date 1813 on the back is the original year of institution of the Iron Cross medal. The front has the date of institution for the war that it was issued for, therefore, this is an Iron Cross Second Class for the First World War (1914-18). The second class award has each side finished and comes with a loop at the top with a ring and ribbon. These awards were worn either as a ribbon on the ribbon bar, the medal on the medal bar during formal occasions, or the ribbon in the second button hole. The Iron Cross First Class was unfinished on the back and had a pin for hanging on thread loops placed on the uniform pocket - the upper right as you look at the tunic. A member needed to win the Iron Cross 2nd Class before being qualified for the 1st Class.

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 10:31 PM

I recently acquired a Militaria Item - an Iron Cross reportedly from WWI. I'll get pictures of it up here real soon. ITs about an inch/inch and a half big. On the top segment of the cross it has a crown, with FW under it. With a 3 leaf plant or something with what look like acorns underneath the center part where the 3 leaves join. Below that is the numbers: 1813. On the other side (not sure which is front) is the same crown, with a big W in the middle. On the bottom are 4 more numbers: 1914 or 1814...the '8-9' is a little distorted due to rust/dirt/damage. Theres a metallic ring on the top of it, and looking very closely at it, you can see a KO inscribed on it. Will try my best to get some dcent pictures with a digital camera.


K.O. is the King's maker for this award. I have a few marked the same.
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#9 Martin Bull

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 08:01 AM

Ye Gods, Carl ! Where did you suddenly reappear from !? :eek:

I'm very glad indeed to 'see' you again ! :cool:
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Posted 21 February 2007 - 10:42 PM

Hi Mate, I was away soaring through the galaxies on the U.S.S. Enterprise - whose 5 year mission was cut short because Mr. Spock had a need to stop by the planet: Vulcan. We learned that his heart had been broken and we went about our business. Earth just happened to be a few light years away and as we were zooming by, the Captain had Mr. Scott beam me down until they return (in season 3) :-D

Just kidding, i've been real busy during that time and also trying to get many projects completed. I was asked to stop by here yesterday and I did so for awhile. I guess like a bad penny, i'm back. ;-D
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