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Major General "Pip" Roberts

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  1. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    Major-General George Philip Bradley Roberts
    Nickname: Pip

    Born 05.11.1906
    Died 1997

    Decorations: Military Cross (8.7.1941); Mention in Despatches (15.12.1942 & 9.8.1945); Distinguished Service Order (13.8.1942) and Bar (28.1.1943 & 8.7.1943); Companion of the Order of the Bath (1.2.1945); Officier Légion d'Honneur; Croix de Guerre avec palmes

    04.02.1926 2nd Lieutenant
    04.02.1929 Lieutenant
    30.09.1936 Captain
    04.01.1942 War Substantive/Major
    04.02.1943 Major
    26.01.1943 War Substantive/Lieutenant-Colonel
    06.12.1944 War Substantive/Colonel
    18.06.1947 (sen. 24.3.1945) Major-General

    Education: Marlborough; Royal Military College, Sandhurst

    04.02.1926 commissioned, Royal Tank Corps (initially stationed at Lydd)
    00.00.1928-00.00.1931 served, 3rd Armoured Car Company, Royal Tank Corps (Egypt)
    00.00.1931-00.01.1933 served, ? (Egypt)
    21.01.1933-20.01.1937 Assistant Instructor, Tank Driving & Maintenance School (Bovington, Dorset, UK)
    00.01.1937-06.12.1938 served, 6th Battalion Royal Tank Regiment (Egypt)
    07.12.1938-15.03.1940 Adjutant, 6th Battalion Royal Tank Regiment (Egypt)
    16.03.1940-00.12.1940 Deputy Assistant Quartermaster-General, 7th Armoured Division (N Africa) (A/Maj., from 16.6.1940-19.7.1940 & 17.10.1940-3.1.1942 T/Maj.)
    00.12.1940 Brigade Major, 4th Armoured Brigade (N Africa)
    00.03.1941 General Staff Officer 2nd grade (GSO2), 7th Armoured Division (N Africa)
    04.10.1941-03.01.1942 Assistant Quartermaster-General, XXX Corps (N Africa) (A/Lt.Col.)
    04.01.1942 Commanding Officer, 3rd Battalion Royal Tank Regiment (N Africa) (from 4.1.1942-25.1.1943 T/Lt.Col. )
    23.07.1942-17.09.1942 Commander, 22nd Armoured Brigade Group (Egypt) (from 23.7.1942-14.8.1942 & 21.8.1942-25.1.1943 A/Col. & A/Brig.), redesignated:
    17.09.1942-20.01.1943 Commander, 22nd Armoured Brigade (Egypt, Libya) (A/Brig.)
    20.01.1943-25.01.1943 acting General Officer Commanding, 7th Armoured Division (Lybia) (A/Brig.)
    26.01.1943- (from 26.1.1943-5.12.1944 T/Col. & T/Brig.)
    13.03.1943-19.06.1943 Commander, 26th Armoured Brigade (N Africa)
    20.07.1943-06.12.1943 Commander, 30th Armoured Brigade (UK)
    06.12.1943-00.00.1946 General Officer Commanding, 11th Armoured Division (UK, NW Europe) (A/Maj.Gen., from 6.12.1944 T/Maj.Gen.)
    00.00.1947-00.00.1948 General Officer Commanding, 7th Armoured Division
    00.00.1948 General Officer Commanding Hanover District, Germany
    00.00.1948-00.00.1949 Director, Royal Armoured Corps, War Office (London)
    11.09.1949 retired

    1949-1964 Director of Scribbans-Kemp, biscuit, cake and sweet manufacturers

    1963-1970 Honorary Colonel, Kent and County of London Yeomanry Squadron, The Royal Yeomanry Regiment, T&AVR

    1960-1970 Justice of the Peace, County of Kent

    http://houterman.htmlplanet.com/bio/Roberts_GPB.html

    If someone has info on Pip´s life please send it here!
     
  2. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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  3. Mahross

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    Great kai. He was the youngest divisional commanders in the British Army when he took over 11th armoured. he was also one of the best armour tacticians in the western armies. he helped pioneer all arms operations in the normandy campaign when the british were found lacking. when given the freedom to operate he succeeded brilliantly. only when he was limited by the powers that be, most notably dempsey during goodwood, was things harder for him.
     
  4. Martin Bull

    Martin Bull Acting Wg. Cdr

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    Absolutely - I've always thought that Roberts is another of those 'great unknowns' who got on with the job....
     
  5. Mahross

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    Kai if your interested roberts produced a biography. this is it:

    Roberts G P B (1987) From the Desert to the Baltic
     
  6. Kai-Petri

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    thanx Mahross!

    I´ll put it on paper so I remember it next time I go abroad!

    ;)
     
  7. Martin Bull

    Martin Bull Acting Wg. Cdr

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    Thanks for that, mahross - that's one I didn't know about & shall watch out for...
     
  8. Popski

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    G'day

    11th Armoured liberated my hometown and he has a street named after him over here.

    Popski
     
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    Wow! Pics! ;)
     
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    Hi, so good to see some information here about Pip Roberts. Indeed one of the great unknown.
    I wuld like to read more in the biography but unfortunately the link isn't working.
    For an essay I am looking for some personal information on him. Does anybody know if he was married and had children or grandchildren?

    It would be great to have some inside information on him too!

    Thanks!
     
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    Pip Roberts had four children - two sons and two daughters. I am married to his elder son, Nicholas and we have two sons of our own. George and Charlie. Let me know if you would like any more info.

    sarah roberts
     
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    macrusk Proud Daughter of a Canadian WWII Veteran

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    Welcome to the Forum, Sarah!

    I found the following links:

    Summary Guide: ROBERTS G P B


    The entry at this site Divisional Commanders of 7th Armoured Division says


    "PIP" ROBERTS (1906-1997)

    Major-General George Philip Bradley Roberts CB, DSO, MC was a charismatic wartime commander of 11th Armoured Division, and rated the best British armoured divisional commander of the war, Gen "Pip" Roberts was the first (and only) peacetime commander of 7th Armoured Division. He was no stranger to the Division, having been the DAQMG when the Italians invaded Egypt in 1940, GS02 during the Brevity and Battleaxe operations, Commanding Officer of 3rd RTR, Commander of 22nd Armoured Brigade and had commanded the Division for four days (20th-24th January 1943) when Gen Harding was wounded. He would command the "Desert Rats" through the early postwar days to their first disbandment in January 1948. He then became Director of the Royal Armoured Corps and retired from the Army in September 1949. His book From the Desert to the Baltic is a very readable account of all his wartime battles.

    http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/issues/36917/supplements/669/page.pdf

    CENTRAL CHANCERY OF THE ORDERS OF
    KNIGHTHOOD.
    St. James's Palace, S.W.i,
    ist February, ​
    1945.

    The KING has been graciously pleased to give
    orders for the following appointments to the Most
    Honourable Order of the Bath, in recognition of
    gallant and distinguished services in North West
    Europe: —

    To be Additional Members of the Military Division
    of the Third Class, or Companions, of the said
    Most Honourable Order: ​

    Brigadier (temporary) Geoffrey Paul Hardy-Roberts,
    C.B.JE. (36763), gth Queen's Royal Lancers, Royal
    Armoured Corps (Res. of Ofi.).
    Major-General (acting) Lewis Owen Lyne, D.S.O.
    (22301), late The Lancashire Fusiliers.
    Major-General (temporary) Gordon Holmes Alexander
    (MacMillan, C.B.E., D.S.O., M.C. (5880), late The
    Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders (Princess
    Louise's).
    Major-General (temporary) George Philip Bradley
    Roberts, D.S.O., M.C. {34890), late Royal Tank
    Regiment, Royal Armoured Corps.
    Major-General (temporary) Robert Knox Ross,
    D.S.O., M.C. (5517), late The Queen's Royal Regiment

    (West Surrey).

    World War II unit histories & officers

    George Philip Bradley Roberts - VisWiki
     
  13. Kai-Petri

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    Hello Sarah!

    I´ve been away due to illness so did not notice this until now.

    I was wondering if it´s possible to have any wartime pics here of Pip? It seems there is nothing much in the net.

    Greetings!

    Kai-Petri
     
  14. Tom Bythell

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    I have a photo of Pip my Dad took in 1945 would you like to see it? I will be happy to post it.

    Tom
     
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    give me a few days to scan the photo and what my dad wrote.

    Tom Bythell
     
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    Hello Tom,
    I am sure many of the members of the forum and guests would enjoy the photo.

    Thanks for offering.

    Richard
     
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    Hello Sarah. My great aunt was Jessie Honor Cassandra Gell....she married Lt. William Bradley Roberts at Ripple in Worcestershire in 1905. They lived at Quetta where Jessie unhappily died only two years later leaving a child. Could that child be your father-in-law? Given that 'Pip' Roberts was born in Quetta and bares one name of my great uncle and the name Philip which is a 'family name', the evidence points to the affirmative! I have lots of info on Jessie's family if it interests you. Best wishes, Tim
     
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    Well, if you've been collecting books for as long as I have, rummaging in countless old bookshops and militaria fairs etc, and still haven't even seen a copy of a certain book - then it MUST be quite hard to find !

    So it was with Pip Roberts' memoir - I have finally given up and resorted to e-bay. So, I now have a perfect first edition which can now take its place on my shelf of Normandy accounts.......
     
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    General Pip Roberts was a regular VI veteran form the Army Staff College Staff Ride to Normandy. Interviews as well as wartime photos and film can be seen in the SSVC film "Operation Goodwood" startinn about 6'51" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udW1UvSHXfY&list=PLMAcfCrPtB1wv16ndjyVusuSjjZqOwEXr&index=1&nohtml5=False
     
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