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#1 hatch

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Posted 09 November 2003 - 12:13 PM

he would be gettin on now but is he still with us ??????? i have kept footage of him speaking in the 60s about being asked did he need anything and his reply was , give us spitfires please !!!!!!!
he sounded like a nice approachable bloke. does anyone have any storys about him ??????

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Posted 09 November 2003 - 12:51 PM

Very sad to say that Adolf Galland passed away on February 9th, 1996.

There's some information at ; -

http://members.aol.c...and/galland.htm

and an interview not long before his death at ; -

http://history1900s..../blgalland1.htm

His own memoir, ' The First And The Last ' is worth reading.
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Posted 09 November 2003 - 02:06 PM

In his memoir "Wing Leader", Johnnie Johnson says this of Galland:

'After the war, when we interrogated him at Tangmere, we were greatly impressed by the man's quiet dignity and his unshakable confidence in his own tactics and theories. He told us he was a chain smoker of cigars and how he had given himself permission to smoke on operations. He claimed to have flown the only German fighter equipped with an electric cigar-lighter, and when he was promoted to high rank, five tobacco firms requested the exclusive privilege of providing his cigars for the duration of the war. He very decently accepted all these offers and enjoyed twenty cigars a day until captured by the Americans at the end of the war, when he still had a modest stock of sixty boxes. He related how Hitler objected to his incessant smoking on the grounds that it was a poor example to the youth of the master race and forbade him to be photographed with a cigar clenched between his teeth. Obviously Galland was a man after our own hearts, but at the time we only knew him as a cunning and highly dangerous opponent.'

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Posted 09 November 2003 - 05:06 PM

two cents.......

I personally think that Galland was the only stedfast and solid Luftwaffe personality still left in the general staff during 1945 as well as Macky Steinhoff while trying to wake up "Fatty" to the realities of the doom and gloom during the 1945 period. A well educated and thoughtful man.

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Posted 09 November 2003 - 05:42 PM

I find the late Johannes Steinhoff an interesting person & just found ( from the same source as above ) a most absorbing interview conducted shortly before he died. In it, he covers many topics ( eg Me-262 ) which we discuss on this Forum : -

http://militaryhisto...ssteinhoff1.htm
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Posted 09 November 2003 - 05:46 PM

Straits of Messina is a good book by Steinhof to have on the shelves. also Galland and Steinhoff and a few other graemlins/rk.gif winners were banned as traitors by the well known 'fat man' as he felt all dued to be removed and the introduction of Galland as Luftwaffe Führer

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 12:30 PM

Originally posted by Erich:
two cents.......

I personally think that Galland was the only stedfast and solid Luftwaffe personality still left in the general staff during 1945 as well as Macky Steinhoff while trying to wake up "Fatty" to the realities of the doom and gloom during the 1945 period. A well educated and thoughtful man.

How about Hans Rudel?
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Posted 10 November 2003 - 03:11 PM

hans rudel the JU-87 ace . did he survive the war as he seemed 2 get shot down a lot.........

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 04:36 PM

Although Rudel was in a high ranking postion in his Schlachtgeschwader 2 he was still performing missions. And yes he survived the war.
Galland on the other hand was only flying few mission with JV 44 as his duties seemed to be re-directed and not of his own choosing. Again the situation with Fat man Göring was temporal and Steinhoff, Galland and the others-mostly graemlins/rk.gif winners formed up JV 44 to protect the southern hemisphere from 9th AF B-26's
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Posted 11 November 2003 - 03:57 PM

But Rudel was throughout filled with nazi ideology, right? Just comparing with Galland here...

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Posted 11 November 2003 - 04:28 PM

hhhhhhhhhhhm well some historians have said that and would be researchers. The guy was a fitting tribute to the spirit of anti-communism, and his prowess as a pilot was second to none. A keen eye and expert with the Kanon-vögel as many of his comrades in the Panzerstaffels in the Schlachtgeschwaders. Confused, why Kai ?

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Posted 11 November 2003 - 04:56 PM

Erich,

I do admire the man, Rudel, for his actions in the war but not all his dedication for Hitler and the nazi cause. But then again without the fanaticism he might not have been as great a Stuka pilot as he was...

I´m just looking for facts here and definitely not trying to condemn him for believing in Hitler. But in a sorta way he was being blind , I think, for otherwise a smart man that he was...

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Posted 11 November 2003 - 06:49 PM

being anti-communistic is not being a Nazi. I am still trying to find a decent reference of him stating he was........? Which do you prefer, under Hitler or under Stalin.........the choice sucks !

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Posted 13 November 2003 - 07:37 PM

Lieutenant general Adolf Galland was a gentleman, well brought, elegant and intelligent man. And an extremely good and brave pilot as well.

General Steinhoff is of course, a great man too. Have you watched a documentary about him called "The Ace"? It makes you cry in the end. Very good. Contains testimonies from Johnnie Johnson, Air marshal Sir Christopher Foxley-Norris, Walther Schuck, lieutenant general Günther Rall, Henry Kissinger, and his sons. Very good!

And about Rudel, I think he did support the régime and Hitler - as nearly EVERYBODY did - and is not a criminal for thinking all the things he believed in. I highly recommend his memoirs: "Stuka Pilot". Easy and enjoyable reading.
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Posted 14 November 2003 - 06:14 AM

Yes,

I don´t blame soldiers for believing in the nazi cause during the war as propaganda can make you think anything they want really. But I´m surprised that many still believed in all this long after the war. Even Guderian seems to have been among(?).

http://www.third-rei...umannwerner.htm

Naumann and his associates continued to meet, talk and organize for the next year. They established secret cells of like-minded National Socialists in several German cities and forged alliances with other clandestine revolutionary groups throughout the fatherland. One of these secret societies was called the German Free Corps. Formed in Hamburg on August 17, 1951, this National Socialist group was made up of former SS members, NSDAP officials and war veterans. The dominating personality was Colonel Hans-Ulrich Rudel,. Members swore to live according to the twenty-five points of the NSDAP program and considered Grand Admiral Dönitz the legal head of the German state. Eventually some 2,000 men would hold membership in this secret army.

Important German Nazis such as the great tank commander Heinz Guderian and the former Minister of Economics Hjalmar Schacht rallied behind Naumann. Former Youth Leader Artur Axmann and leading propagandist Hans Fritsche gave their support to Naumann as well.

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Posted 14 November 2003 - 06:37 AM

Gallands JV 44 seemed to have been free of the Nazi sypathizers but not JG 7 the highest scoring of the Me 262 units. Even today the unit will not form up at all for a reunion because of the animosity of some of it's members due to their old politcal views..........weirdos !

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Posted 14 November 2003 - 04:07 PM

Erich is right, I read about JV-44 being made mostly of the best and most rebeld pilots. Lützow, Galland, Steinhoff, Rall and others who were 'conspiring' against Göring were appointed to this almost suicidal missions as punishment. Right? :confused:

But it is really hard to get rid of the ideology you grew up with. It is very hard to say that my grandfather after so many years stills believes most of the things he learned back then and is not someone very 'tolerant'... :rolleyes: :confused:
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Posted 14 November 2003 - 04:12 PM

Basically Galland threw in the towel just to get out of Göring's hair. formed JV 44 as there was need for more defence against 9th and 15th US AF units from the southern part of the Reich.
Rall was never in a jet unit operationally as he took over command of JG 300 and has never commented seriously on the late war activities of the single engine Geschwader.
Lützow was killed in action with the unit and we know what happened to "Macky" on take off viewed hideously by three other jet pilots that date.

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Posted 14 November 2003 - 04:16 PM

Thanks, Erich! I didn't know that Rall wasn't a jet pilot. I thought Galland had took him with the others into JV-44 because he was an ace and one of the anti-Göring or bad Luftwaffe guys...

Have you watched the programme I mentioned, there they play photographs of general Steinhoff all over the years and the progress of his plastic surgeries. Very impressing and heartbreakening.
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Posted 14 November 2003 - 04:19 PM

have seen similiar pics and have one of his books besides the big JV 44 thingie and the smaller protection Würger staffel book by eagle editions.
The book Battle over Bavaria is basically a copy of the materisl in the big JV 44 book.
Rall did some test up flights after the war.

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Posted 14 November 2003 - 08:22 PM

This propably was somewhere before but anyway,

the Galland brothers:

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Paul Galland


Paul Galland was the youngest of the Galland brothers. Paul Galland was credited with 17 victories in 107 combat missions.
On 31 October 1942 Galland participated in the vengeance raid on Canterbury. On the return flight Galland answered a call from a German pilot being attacked by a Spitfire. The Spitfire spotted Galland’s approach and pulled up into the cloud cover. Galland attempted to follow but stalled and had to dive away to regain speed. The Spitfire took the opportunity to dive from the clouds and shoot down Galland’s Fw 190 A-4 (WNr 2402) “Black 1”.

http://www.luftwaffe.cz/gallandp.html

Or was he mistakenly shot down by another pilot of JG26.(?)


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Wilhelm-Ferdinand "Wutz" Galland


On 17 August 1943 at 16:52 three Staffeln from II./JG 26 took off from Lille-Nord under the command of Major Galland against a formation of four-engined bombers on their return course from Schweinfurt. Over Lutych the unit encountered a formation of 150 to 200 bombers, escorted by nearly 200 escort fighters. II./JG 26 bounced the bombers but were, in turn, attacked by a unit of Thunderbolts from the 56th Fighter Group. Their fire crippled the Focke-Wulf 190 A-5 flown by “Wutz” Galland which crashed at high speed near Liegne, 5 km west of Maastricht.

The impact left a large crater in the ground from which it was impossible to remove all the wreckage. Some sources suggest that “Wutz” Galland was shot down by the American ace Walker “Bud” Mahurin (24.25 confirmed, 4 probable and 2 damaged victories) of the 56th Fighter Group, USAAF.

Wilhelm Ferdinand “Wutz” Galland had 54 aerial victories all scored on the Western Front in 186 missions. His score included 7 four-engined heavy bombers and 37 Spitfires.

On 28 January he received the Deutsches Kreuz in Gold for 24 victories. He was awarded the Ritterkreuz on 18 May 1943 for 35 enemy aircraft destroyed.

http://www.luftwaffe.cz/gallandw.html
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