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War in the Pacific The Sino-Japanese War, the attack at Pearl Harbor to the atomic bombing of Nagasaki

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Or was It simply It's size and armament that scared the Allies without it ever actually achieving any material results?
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From what I know, its simply the Japanese version of the Tirpitz.
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Did it actually bust up any Allied ships?
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'Yamato' did fire it's main armament 'in anger' - only once, on 25th October 1944 at the Battle of Leyte Gulf.

It engaged a number of US escort carriers and destroyers off the Island of Samar. One carrier and three destroyers were sunk - but I cannot find out if the Yamato , or other Japanese units involved, did the sinking.

Still, it did do something .....
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Have a look at this : -

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/s...z/yamato-k.htm

It must be the longest URL ever, but it makes interesting reading and there are some interesting photos of 'Yamato'.
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Nice, Martin!

I love that ship! And I agree. It did something. At least it is a good topic for chating, isn't it?
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I don't think it even scared the USN.
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The Musashi was her sister and she REALLY didn't do a damn thing. A beautiful ship though. At least our Iowa classes were put to good use for bombardment and anti-aircraft use.
I'll tell you one thing that is even more pathetic than Musashi.
There was actually a third sister ship of Musashi and Yamato. She was called the Shinano. Laid out as as a super battleship she was finished as a super carrier in 1945. She was a massive carrier even more armored and capable than the US Essex classes.
However...she was still being fitted out and during her trial runs in which she had no torpedo bulges or fire control...she was torpedoed by a US sub and she sliped beneath the waves before even making it out of her sea trials!
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A North Sea Trawler carried more armour than an Essex class! Shinano was not as capable, and never really could be given her conversion on the slips. The issue with later Japanese carriers (like Taiho) was always going to be shoddy construction coupled with unrefined and highly volatile fuel from Borneo. Inexperienced crews added to the mix, underlining the disaster likley to strike if they took a single hit: poor damage control = glug.

The utter futility of building these super-ships is apparent with Mushahi's suicide mission: after all what else was it good for? At least the Germans could threaten Arctic convoys, the Italians could cut the "all red route" but what was the IJN going to do with all that capital and manpower tied up in two ships?

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Yeah i agree with that, i think the Japanese had grand ideas for there super ships...but were obviously afraid of risking them until it was absolutely pointless to even have them. I mean jeez look at Guadalcanal. The Yamato sat in Truk harbor during the whole thing being used as a command post really. They should have sent her instead of the old Kirishima classes.

BUT frankly i doubt a north sea trawler could take as much pounding as an essex class carrier...umm, unless you can proove that
Besides, is a North sea trawler even divided into water tight compartments?

Oh and also Taiho was sunk before Shinano but is that why it blew up so unexpectedly? the fuel? that makes sense.
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