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June 3rd, 2008, 08:19 PM
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Give me some facts!!!
OK guys, Im part of a WWII awareness campaign at a local museum, and Im putting together a flier with info about the war on it. But, I am coming up seriously short on PTO info. Loads of ETO, but nary a thing on PTO.
Im looking for info on how many people the Japanese held captive, executed, experimented on, stuff like that, as well as loss of life for the entire war.
Anyone have any ideas where I can find such facts? Wikipedia was a
letdown.
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June 3rd, 2008, 08:27 PM
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Re: Give me some facts!!!
these charts might help with some of what you are looking for. The whole thing is a good read if you can find the time.
HyperWar: US Army in WWII: Strategy and Command: The First Two Years [Chapter 29]
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June 3rd, 2008, 08:44 PM
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Re: Give me some facts!!!
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OK guys, Im part of a WWII awareness campaign at a local museum, and Im putting together a flier with info about the war on it. But, I am coming up seriously short on PTO info. Loads of ETO, but nary a thing on PTO.
Im looking for info on how many people the Japanese held captive, executed, experimented on, stuff like that, as well as loss of life for the entire war.
Anyone have any ideas where I can find such facts? Wikipedia was a
letdown.
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Richard Frank has some interesting data tables in "Downfall" showing month by month casualties in the PTO compared to the same data in the ETO. Apparently the fighting in the PTO was much more intense than in Europe, although total numbers of troops committed were actually less. Frank's book is generously footnoted and I'm sure you can find additional data sources in his notes section.
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June 3rd, 2008, 10:49 PM
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Re: Give me some facts!!!
Check out the axis history forum. They are pretty strict about people sourcing their claims especially in the war crimes section.
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June 4th, 2008, 09:54 AM
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Re: Give me some facts!!!
I remember that JC had started several threads about what you're asking.
As Mike did mention, the Hyperwar site is very informative.
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June 4th, 2008, 10:17 PM
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Re: Give me some facts!!!
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I remember that JC had started several threads about what you're asking.
As Mike did mention, the Hyperwar site is very informative.
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Thanks Falcon  .Heres some stats from one of the threads on Unit 731.
The following table was compiled from two sources: a report to US occupation authorities dated December 12, 1947 by Edwin Hill and Joseph Victor, concerning human experimentation by Unit 731 and related facilities; and a list of specimens brought back to Japan by a Unit 731 pathologist in July 1943. Aside from Ishii and another unit leader, Kitano Masaji, the names of individual researchers do not appear; they are identified as military personnel (M, primarily military doctors), (C) civilian technicians conducting research within the military, and (PT) part-time researchers working outside of the military.
The number of specimens reflects the number of subjects who died as a result of human experimentation as of July 1943. Consequently, the total number of victims of human experimentation at the time of Japan’s surrender two years later would be higher than these figures. The figures also do not include victims of germ bomb tests at the Anda field test site or from other experiments.
Subject Researcher Total Specimens Medically Usable Specimens
anthrax M 36 31
botulinus Ishii 2 0
brucellosis Ishii, M, C, M 3 1
CO poisoning 1 0
cholera C, C 135 50
dysentery M, M, PT, PT, M 21 12
glanders Ishii, C 22 20
meningitis Ishii, C 5 1
mustard gas 16 16
plague Ishii, C, M, C 180 42
plague (from the Shinkyo [Changchun] epidemic) 66 64
poison 2 0
salmonella M, C 14 11
Songo (epidemic hemorrhagic fever) C, Kitano, C 101 52
smallpox Ishii, C 4 2
streptococcus 3 1
suicide 30 11
tetanus Ishii, PT, C 32 14
tick encephalitis C, Kitano 2 1
tsutsugamushi (scrub typhus) C 2 0
tuberculosis C, Ishii 82 41
typhoid C, C 63 22
typhus C, M, C, Kitano, C 26 9
vaccine 2 2
Total 850 403
http://japanfocus.org/products/details/2194
http://www.ww2f.com/war-pacific/2246...nit-731-a.html
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June 21st, 2008, 09:49 PM
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Re: Give me some facts!!!
I have got a book on unit 731 will have to dig it out and post title and author.
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June 22nd, 2008, 08:50 AM
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I have got a book on unit 731 will have to dig it out and post title and author.
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As promised,Factories of death by Sheldon h.harris. Published by routledge.
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June 29th, 2008, 06:42 PM
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Re: Give me some facts!!!
Another good one is "Unit 731 Testimony" by Hal Gold published by Yenbooks. Keystone, contact me off forum and let me know if you want me to give your email address to Mr. Gold. He is a good guy and willing to share his research.
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