In these cities lived only pieceful citizens and it was un-nessary to destroy piecefull cities which even don't have bases! USA want to keep in fear USSR and other countries that's why they killed so many piecefull japans! In this cities were many old mans and children. They can't fight.

Necessary - Japan absolutely refused to surrender to the Allies in August 1945. A conventional invasion would have prolonged the war at least another year or more and killed several million more people. More Japanese civilians would most likely have been killed through conventional means instead compared to the Atomic Bomb.

Option A: Kill 120,000 Japenese (risking civilians) with an Atomic Bomb and end the war in a week.

Option B: Sustain over 1,000,000 Allied casualties and and unknown amount (most likely also in the millions or at least upper 100,000's) through conventional means and end the war in a year.

I choose Option A.

Sorry, accidental double post.

What a load of :bullshit:. I suggest you read the other threads where it has been stated the many MILITARY reasons that both were bombed. As I have mentioned earlier this has been dscussed Ad Naseum before.

http://www.ww2f.com/wwii-general/238...ved-lives.html

http://www.ww2f.com/wwii-general/101...ping-bomb.html

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

^ I second that statement.

In Irak now you can use atomic weapon how it was in Herosima and Nagasaki. Why you don't do this? Kill all terrorist and all people without loses for USA. Lets use atomic weapon everywere!!! Destroy all terrorist's towns with atomic bomb to destroy all nature and piecefull citizens. Lets destroy our planet.

And yet another recent thread.

Atomic bomb

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

"In these cities lived only pieceful citizens and it was un-nessary to destroy piecefull cities which even don't have bases! USA want to keep in fear USSR and other countries that's why they killed so many piecefull japans! In this cities were many old mans and children. They can't fight."

So tell me again that only peaceful people lived there? That there were no bases?


"At the time of its bombing, Hiroshima was a city of considerable industrial and military significance. Even some military camps were located nearby, such as the headquarters of the Fifth Division and Field Marshal Shunroku Hata's 2nd General Army Headquarters, which commanded the defense of all of southern Japan. Hiroshima was a minor supply and logistics base for the Japanese military. The city was a communications center, a storage point, and an assembly area for troops. It was one of several Japanese cities left deliberately untouched by American bombing, allowing an ideal environment to measure the damage caused by the atomic bomb. Another account stresses that after General Spaatz reported that Hiroshima was the only targeted city without POW-camps, Washington decided to assign it highest priority. "
Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



"The city of Nagasaki had been one of the largest sea ports in southern Japan and was of great war-time importance because of its many and varied industries, including the production of ordnance, ships, military equipment, and other war materials. The narrow long strip attacked was of particular importance because of its industries."

"The Mitsubishi conglomerate operated a shipyard, electric equipment production facilities, steel factories, and an arms plant there. The aimpoint for Bockscar was the Mitsubishi Steel and Arms Works."
Air Force Magazine - April, 1994

"The hurriedly-targeted weapon ended up detonating almost exactly between two of the principal targets in the city, the Mitsubishi Steel and Arms Works to the south, and the Mitsubishi-Urakami Torpedo Works (right) to the north. Had the bomb exploded farther south the residential and commercial heart of the city would have suffered much greater damage. "

The Atomic Bombing of Nagasaki, August 9, 1945

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JCF,

On the outskirts of Hiroshima was an allied POW camp. It contained US, UK and Australian prisoners.

They were just outside the critical radius and after the dust settled they packed the POWs up and sent them to another city.

Guess which one?

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OJ

WHAT did you said if your city was destroyed by atomic bomb? A? In these cities died many people. They died like burned chickens. It is terrible. If your city was destroyed by this bomb you don't said that it was nessesary to destroyed cities by atomic bombs.

Go to this site and look at the photoes (what USA done in Herosima and Nagasaki) : ????.??? > ???????? ? ????????. ???????? ????.??????????, ??????? ?? ?????????? (31 ????+?????)

What´s your problem, Soviet man?

Stalin killed definitely more own people than a couple of atomic bombs ( you can try to find the correct figures if you want ) but we don´t say every Russian is the same.

Besides the peaceful Japanese would have attacked the USSR in the back if the Germans had fared any better in the war. They had already the codes to send on the radio where to attack in case it would be the UK or the USSR losing the war. What would your response be then if the peaceful Japanese had done that??

Oh yeah, and you did break the treaty with Japan ( of peace ) by attacking in August 1945....

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If be honorest its not STALIN killed own people! Its another man (the head of this organasation) which was killed how traitor because he killed inecent people. And today in RUSSIA so,e moths ago starts project Name Of RUSSIA where we choose great people of our country and in this project leading STALIN.

By the way Japan want to write peace with Stalin when we enter Japan. But America want to show her power and it killed many citizens and small group of Japan's soldiers.

Why did you enter Japan if you already had a peace treaty with them and the Japanese were peaceful?

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^ Logic is a good thing isn't it Kai.

When we entered Japan it want to write pieace with USSR. The war was almost over, but Trueman want to keep in fear USSR and other countries and he ordered to destroy cities with small group of japan forces (40 000 in Herosima) and many citizens (350 000 in Herosima). There are many womens, children and old mans there. They died terrible.

^ The Soviets went in by their own choice and if they staunchly opposed it they could have easily refused. Stop scapegoating Truman as it is invalid to say Truman ''made the USSR go into Japan''.

By the way your Atomic Bomb Deathtolls are about 200,000 off.

I said that in Herosima were 40 000 Japan military and 300 000 citizens! I don't said that they died all!!!

^Fair enough I misunderstood , now respond to this.

Soviet forces go to Japan because allies open the second front.

Again, the Soviets could have refused if they where so ''against fighting the peaceful Japanese''. (which they weren't)