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August 13th, 2002, 09:30 AM
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What is your absolute favorite weapon from WW2? Mp44, Tiger tank, Japanese torpedo, etc. You name it. Mine would have to be the 80cm Gustav Kanone. Maybe its Freudian, but it greatly impresses me.
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August 13th, 2002, 11:35 AM
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Me 262! Definitely! " Like flying on an angel´s wings" like Galland said!
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August 13th, 2002, 12:49 PM
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Type VII U-Boat, Stg44, B-17 Bomber, P-47D....oh so many to choose...i will keep the list short for now...
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August 13th, 2002, 12:59 PM
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Infantry weapon - StG 44 or PPSH.
Tank - Tiger I.
Plane - Stuka and Ju-52.
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August 13th, 2002, 02:13 PM
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Stg44
I'd love to get one some day.
MG-42 is a close second.
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August 13th, 2002, 05:54 PM
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Can't resist this one...
MP44
88 Flak/PaK
Bren
Tiger 1
Rocket-firing Typhoon

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August 13th, 2002, 05:56 PM
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Following RedBaron, I think I need to categorize...
Infantry- Panzerfaust
Tank- Ohhh, this is the tough one. Tiger, I guess. I really do like some of the more interesting tank destroyers though- the Elephant would be a close second.
Can't really say I've studied enough on planes or naval stuff to have an opinion...
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August 13th, 2002, 08:05 PM
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Infantry- Mauser Kar 98 with scope.
Armor- Tiger II
Aircraft- B17
Naval- American submarines in the pacific
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August 15th, 2002, 02:24 AM
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infantry weapon- Tough one for me, since I collect these,and love them all. I would have to say the Walther P38 and MG34. Both these guns were awesome, and were very influential in future gun designs!
Tank- Hands down it has to be the Tiger tank! Not other tank even comes close. No other tank created such fear and respect! or has the "household" name of today as the Tiger!
Aircraft- This is another tough one! I would have to say the Me262 for fighters, and the B29 for bombers. Both these aircraft were amazingly effective, and both of them, quite litterally change the world!!
Naval- this is one is a no-brainer, Hands down the US Essex class Aircraft carrier! No Essex class carrier was ever sunk, and these ships took the war right to the heart of Japan, and destroyed it completely! When the US battleship fleet was laying at the bottom of Pearl Harbor it was the aircraft carrier that saved democracy. Even today the Aircraft carrier dominates the seas! Such an imposing weapon!
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August 15th, 2002, 02:37 AM
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Of course Gustav is my overall favorite, but I suppose I can go into categories.
For Infantry weapon I would have to say the mp40...it seems like it and the luger were the classic German weapons.
For tanks, it is hands down the King Tiger.
For planes, it is the p51. So graceful...so deadly.
For navy, it is the battleship Bismarck. It and its sister ship Tirpitz were truly impressive.
For unconventional, it is the V-2. It was out of this world, and is the basis for all modern day ICBM's and rockets which take us into space.
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August 15th, 2002, 10:40 AM
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Tank: King Tiger.
Weapon: MG42.
Aircraft: Bomber: B-17, Fighter: ME 109E.
Ship: Bismarck.
Infantry (Cos they are a weapon) Fallschirmjager.
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August 15th, 2002, 01:01 PM
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favourite weapons ?
Firearm - Stg44, foreruner of all modern assault rifles, feels good to hold, aims well, makes the right sound.  Pity we're not allowed to have one in Oz.
Tank - Tiger II, nothing beats it for the size and "presence"
Planes - Me262, first of the "modern" jets, and the tank busting Ju87 Stuka.
Ship - Bismark, definitely an impressive beastie.
what wouldn't you give to be able to go back in time just after WW2 when all this stuff was just lying around.....
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August 15th, 2002, 01:58 PM
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welcom to our abyss of usless knowledge sniper, i look foward to ur future posts. Im CvM, your resident loudmouth.
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August 15th, 2002, 03:57 PM
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Oh what a decision.
Personal: Stg44 The birth of the modern assault weapon and I don't care what the Russians say, they copied it.
Artillery: PAK88. Came a little late but awesome tank killer. Low profile, high velocity and accurate.
Armour: StuG III. Tanks are great but tank killers are better.
Aircraft: JU87. Aaah, the tank buster. Another tank killer. Did I mention I love the hunt....Pzjgr strikes again!
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August 15th, 2002, 04:14 PM
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Ah, difficult one!
Luegger, sniper K98, "Gustav" (OK; dasReich, I am with you  ).
PzKpfw IV, siG 150, U-Boot VII, "Prinz Eugen", "Bismarck", "Yamato", Zero, Me-110...
And the "Tommie"... (I had to have an American one at least)... 
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August 15th, 2002, 04:45 PM
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In the artillery category- Gustav and Dora are close, but the Karl series wins out for me. 125-TON self propelled artillery
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I'd have to agree with this one, so my vote is now solidly towards the Elephant.
[ 15 August 2002, 11:46 AM: Message edited by: CrazyD88 ]
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August 15th, 2002, 11:27 PM
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OK. I go with the Elephant too. 
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August 16th, 2002, 01:30 AM
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My favorite tank killer is Jagdpanther, followed closely by Hetzer...the best use of a Pz38 chassis ever. In the general category of armor, though, King Tiger is stil the...king?
And I forgot about the Yamato...wasnt that the largest battleship ever?
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August 16th, 2002, 05:24 AM
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DasReich, you're right. Yamato was the biggest but she never had a good chance to prove herself. Would have been interesting to see her up against some of the US battleships.
Favourite tank killers... Jagdpanther, Panzerfaust and the 88. Elefants were good tank killers but too easily killed by infantry.
Favourite bomber... B17, could take heaps of punishment and still keep flying.
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August 16th, 2002, 06:10 AM
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I would have liked to have seen Yamato versus some yankee ships. Even better, Yamato versus Bismarck. Im sure that would be interesting, although not very likely. Perhaps a future thread for the what-if forum...
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August 16th, 2002, 04:10 PM
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I should probably clarify- I certainly don't think the Elephant was "the best" tank killer- not by a long shot!
just my personal favorite! More character than the others!!!
dasreich, don't be foolish- Elvis is the King!!
OK, but the King Tiger is definetely a close second. Although, King Tiger vs Tiger I? Hmmmm...
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We are not talking about the best here!!!  We discussed them a lot and it has become boring...  Our favourite!!! And if anyone want to say that the Swordfish is their favourite "fighter" then it's OK! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
And yes, the Yamato weighted 70.000 tons and had 9x18" guns... I will look for more specifications later.
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Some stuff on the Yamato
Yamato, lead ship of a class of two 65,000-ton (over 72,800-tons at full load) battleships, was built at Kure, Japan. She and her sister, Musashi were by far the largest battleships ever built, even exceeding in size and gun caliber (though not in weight of broadside) the U.S. Navy's abortive Montana class. Their nine 460mm (18.1-inch) main battery guns, which fired 1460kg (3200 pound) armor piercing shells, were the largest battleship guns ever to go to sea, and the two ships' scale of armor protection was also unsurpassed.
Commissioned in December 1941, just over a week after the start of the Pacific war, Yamato served as flagship of Combined Fleet commander Isoroku Yamamoto during the critical battles of 1942. During the following year, she spent most of her time at Truk, as part of a mobile naval force defending Japan's Centeral Pacific bases. Torpedoed by USS Skate (SS-305) in December 1943, Yamato was under repair until April 1944, during which time her anti-aircraft battery was considerably increased. She then took part in the Battle of the Philippine Sea in June and the Battle of Leyte Gulf in October. During the latter action, she was attacked several times by U.S. Navy aircraft, and fired her big guns in an engagement with U.S. escort carriers and destroyers off the island of Samar.
Yamato received comparatively light damage during the Leyte Gulf battle, and was sent home in November 1944. Fitted with additional anti-aircraft machine guns, she was based in Japan during the winter of 1944-45. Attacked by U.S. Navy carrier planes in March 1945, during raids on the Japanese home islands, she was again only lightly damaged. The following month, she was assigned to take part in the suicidal "Ten-Go" Operation, a combined air and sea effort to destroy American naval forces supporting the invasion of Okinawa. On 7 April 1945, while still some 200 miles north of Okinawa, Yamato was attacked by a massive force of U.S. carrier planes and sunk.
After the war, the great battleship became an object of intense fascination in Japan, as well as in foreign countries. Yamato's remains were located and examined in 1985 and again examined, more precisely, in 1999. She lies in two main parts in some 1000 feet of water. Her bow portion, severed from the rest of the ship in the vicinity of the second main battery turret, is upright. The midships and stern section is upside down nearby, with a large hole in the lower starboard side close to the after magazines.
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I lived in Okinawa for 3 years, and yes the Yamato and her sister Musashi were just awesome. However they both succumed to Aircraft! The Yamato could have been used at Midway and at Leyte gulf. However in both cases the Japanes commander at the battle was scared and turned and ran! At Leyte gulf they could have easily crushed the US invasion force that was only guarded by a few CVLs some cruisers, and a few destroyers! The Japanese had over 9 battleships ,including Yamato!) The Japanese commander retreated when he saw the American Destroyers taking on his battleships head on! He thought that the Americans must have had carriers nearby, or else they would never do such a suicide attack!? He was wrong.
Yamato vs. Iowa? I think the victory would go to whoever got the first hit! Both had tremendous firepower. Yamato would have a slight advantage in range, Iowa would have better damage control.
Yamato vs. Bismark. Bismark was very fast, but would be totally outgunned by Yamato! Victory would go to Yamato, unless Bismark just ran.
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