|
|  |
 |
Members: 6,501
Threads: 18,474
Posts: 231,134
Online: 266
Newest Member:
nazi_akash |
|
|
| Weapons in WWII Discussion about the weapons and war machines created during World War Two |
March 10th, 2003, 10:52 AM
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Canada
Posts: 306
Salute!: 0
Saluted 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Sir Brian Horrocks
__________________
Ain't no rocket scientists in the firehall
|
March 11th, 2003, 12:04 AM
|
 |
Expert
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Corpus Christi, Texas
Posts: 14,564
Salute!: 76
Saluted 34 Times in 30 Posts
|
|
Great pics of Rommel--Kai, ive never seen either of them before and never seen him in an overseas cap before either.
__________________
Lost are only those, who abandon themselves) Hans-Ulrich Rudel.
 
|
March 11th, 2003, 07:21 AM
|
 |
Kenraali  |
|
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Kotka, Finland
Posts: 14,877
Salute!: 104
Saluted 35 Times in 31 Posts
|
|
Indeed, this was the first pic of Rommel with an overseas cap that I had seen as well so I put it here even if the pic is a bit small.
__________________
|
March 11th, 2003, 11:15 PM
|
|
Expert
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Corpus Christi, Texas
Posts: 14,564
Salute!: 76
Saluted 34 Times in 30 Posts
|
|
__________________
Lost are only those, who abandon themselves) Hans-Ulrich Rudel.
|
March 17th, 2003, 02:19 PM
|
 |
WW2F Veteran
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Cabinet War Rooms
Posts: 1,485
Salute!: 0
Saluted 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
|
March 17th, 2003, 11:43 PM
|
|
Expert
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Corpus Christi, Texas
Posts: 14,564
Salute!: 76
Saluted 34 Times in 30 Posts
|
|
Mahross--thank you very much! You made this Texans day with those two pics. 
Nice avatar by the way. [img]smile.gif[/img]
__________________
Lost are only those, who abandon themselves) Hans-Ulrich Rudel.
|
March 19th, 2003, 11:23 AM
|
|
WW2F Veteran
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Cabinet War Rooms
Posts: 1,485
Salute!: 0
Saluted 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Thats ok. Always happy to help. Cheers, I had to pick Slim. |
March 19th, 2003, 02:37 PM
|
 |
Acting Wg. Cdr. |
|
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: London
Posts: 9,224
Salute!: 15
Saluted 45 Times in 22 Posts
|
|
Oh - that's who it is !
( Just kidding, Mahross ! )
__________________
"Stand by to pull me out of the seat if I get hit" - Guy Gibson
|
March 19th, 2003, 11:12 PM
|
 |
Ace
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Citizen of the world, though quite misantropic!
Posts: 6,393
Salute!: 0
Saluted 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
|
__________________
"War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." - Jean Dutourd, French veteran of both world wars
"A mon fils: depuis que tes yeux sont fermes les miens n’ont cessé de pleurir." - Mère française, Verdun
|
March 20th, 2003, 07:46 PM
|
|
Kenraali |
|
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Kotka, Finland
Posts: 14,877
Salute!: 104
Saluted 35 Times in 31 Posts
|
|
Field Marshall Erwin Rommel (center) discusses the upcoming Allied invasion of France with Colonel General Johannes Blaskowitz, commander of Army Group G, and Field Marshall Gerd von Rundstedt.
By the way, anyone got a decent pic of the "Mammoth", Rommels armored car in Africa?
__________________
|
March 20th, 2003, 08:15 PM
|
|
Expert
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Corpus Christi, Texas
Posts: 14,564
Salute!: 76
Saluted 34 Times in 30 Posts
|
|
Thanks for the pic of Rommels FM Baton--it sure is a beautiful work of art. As the Russians have it--no doubt it will ever be seen elsewhere again.  It NEEDS to be back in Germany where it belongs. 
Thanks for the links for the other artifacts like: that Afrika Korps Canteen, Montys' beret and mini medal bar etc.
Back to Rommels Baton. That piece of history is totally priceless. The only thing I can think of that can come close to comparing values with are Hitlers last will and testament, Wolfgang Luths first and spare set of Oak Leaves and Swords (and I know where they permanently reside), Erich Topps Honor Dagger presented to him by Admirals Erich Raeder and Karl Donitz (which was stolen from his home a few years ago by thieves posing as a news crew) , and Der Blucher Stern. [img]smile.gif[/img] Oh and Erich Hartmanns RK, Oaks, Swords and Diamonds that he threw into a river before surrendering to the Russians, as well as Rudels RK, Oaks, Swords, Diamonds and Golden Oaks, Swords and Diamonds. As far as I know--his family still has them
__________________
Lost are only those, who abandon themselves) Hans-Ulrich Rudel.
|
March 20th, 2003, 09:03 PM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Bloomington, IN
Posts: 659
Salute!: 0
Saluted 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Didn't Rommel hate that batton, and only use it once for a photograph?
|
March 20th, 2003, 10:43 PM
|
|
Expert
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Corpus Christi, Texas
Posts: 14,564
Salute!: 76
Saluted 34 Times in 30 Posts
|
|
I dont know.
I do know that he didnt have more preferance with anything that had a swaz on it. Notice in the vast majority of photographs that Rommel always tries to have his Pour le Merite overlapping his Knights Cross.... 
__________________
Lost are only those, who abandon themselves) Hans-Ulrich Rudel.
|
March 21st, 2003, 12:49 AM
|
|
Ace
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Citizen of the world, though quite misantropic!
Posts: 6,393
Salute!: 0
Saluted 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
|
Actually, very few of the field marshals used that fancy and heavy batton. They used a much simpler version (which looks simpler than just a batton). Rommel was not the only one. And that he didn't like anything with Swatikas is not a valid arguement. We all know that if he was not a nazi he was well convinced of Hitler's power and leadership at least until 1942... There were some field marshals who simply could not stand the "Bohemian corporal"... Rommel was one of the 'yes' men in the beginning... And that doesn't make him a nazi.
__________________
"War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." - Jean Dutourd, French veteran of both world wars
"A mon fils: depuis que tes yeux sont fermes les miens n’ont cessé de pleurir." - Mère française, Verdun
|
March 21st, 2003, 05:21 AM
|
|
Miserable Cretin
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Marblehead, Massachusetts
Posts: 463
Salute!: 0
Saluted 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Favorite commander of WW2?
Lieutenant General Vasily Ivanovich Chuikov
|
June 3rd, 2003, 08:33 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Akron, Ohio
Posts: 94
Salute!: 0
Saluted 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
I think that a realy good commander was Jimmy Dolittle. He led the attacks on Japan right after Pearl. Then he recived command of the Eighth Airforce in England. He flew most of the bombing missions in B-17's with his men.
__________________
It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it.
--General Douglas MacArthur
|
June 3rd, 2003, 08:45 PM
|
|
WW2F Veteran
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 2,855
Salute!: 2
Saluted 1 Time in 1 Post
|
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Timothy S.:
He flew most of the bombing missions in B-17's with his men.
|
Have you got a source for this, Timothy? Just curious...
__________________
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" - Homer Simpson
|
June 3rd, 2003, 09:52 PM
|
|
recruit
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 2
Salute!: 0
Saluted 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
|
Being a former Marine I got to say Chesty Puller, Greg "Pappy" Boyington, and H.M. Smith.
__________________
Curahee-"We Stand Alone Together"
|
June 3rd, 2003, 10:01 PM
|
|
Ace
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Citizen of the world, though quite misantropic!
Posts: 6,393
Salute!: 0
Saluted 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
James Doolitle did not fly missions in B-17s like the rest of his men. Not even squadron commanders did that!
__________________
"War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." - Jean Dutourd, French veteran of both world wars
"A mon fils: depuis que tes yeux sont fermes les miens n’ont cessé de pleurir." - Mère française, Verdun
|
June 3rd, 2003, 10:49 PM
|
|
WW2F Veteran
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 2,855
Salute!: 2
Saluted 1 Time in 1 Post
|
|
Fried,
I have to correct you on that one. They did. Certainly Squadron commanders. Many indeed choose difficult missions to lead their men, to get their missions in and also show they were up to the job. A crucial part of leadership.
Lt.Col. Bowman, XCO of the 447th died on Jan. 11, 1944, leading his BG to Braunschweig. The 94th that day was lead by their CO, Col. Thorup. Many more examples here.
A famous example is the actor Jimmy Stewart. He was a B24 squadron commander and was known to choose to lead his squadron on the most difficult missions.
I am not sure about the Division Commanders and up, though. Wings were lead by a certain BG, and beging the lead BG often meant the CO would fly.
__________________
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" - Homer Simpson
|
June 3rd, 2003, 11:01 PM
|
|
Ace
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Citizen of the world, though quite misantropic!
Posts: 6,393
Salute!: 0
Saluted 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Yes, Stevin. I knew that a few men did fly with their men as many German division commanders were always in battle. However, it was not the most common, was it? Even if so, we are talking about squadron commanders. But can you imagine the General Staff alowing general Doolittle to fly in a B-17 in a raid to Berlin? The commander of an Air Force?!
__________________
"War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." - Jean Dutourd, French veteran of both world wars
"A mon fils: depuis que tes yeux sont fermes les miens n’ont cessé de pleurir." - Mère française, Verdun
| |
