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June 27th, 2003, 10:05 AM
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Can anyone provide me with pre-war and wartime production figures for the Junkers 52, particularly the years 39-43?
Also does anyone have any figures for JU-52 losses in Norway, Holland and Crete?
Also is there crew casualties for the same operations as above?
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June 27th, 2003, 12:56 PM
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Cheers Kai,
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June 27th, 2003, 01:08 PM
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The only figure I can find for Ju-52 losses over Crete is the 'nearly 200' quoted by Callum MacDonald ( 'The Lost Battle : Crete 1941' ).
In the most desperate phase of the operation the Germans were certainly bulldozing crashed and damaged Ju-52s off the Maleme runways to make more room.....
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June 27th, 2003, 03:34 PM
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200 ? that seems high to me, of course German sources will not agree with British but that's the way it is......will hunt for this in my data base
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June 27th, 2003, 03:35 PM
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Cheers Erich! 
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June 27th, 2003, 03:45 PM
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125 seems to stick in my mind, but no second guessing......this will be a project for the weekend. Gotta hand it to the transport crews, about nothing written on them and they did their duty knowing full well they would probably end up as dog meat and be shot down and kia
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I have varying figures for Holland aswell giving Ju-52 losses as between 200-400? 
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June 27th, 2003, 04:12 PM
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Red, somewhere in the piles of data I have the adresse for the Transport-Flieger association. If I find it it is yours to write to. Hopefully they would be of help ?
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June 27th, 2003, 05:42 PM
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May 21st, 1941 : 'Maleme was like the gate of hell' reported the divisional commander, Lt-Gen Ringel. Of every three transporters the enemy succeeded in hitting one, either setting it on fire or shearing off a wing. Major Snowatzki had the wrecks cleared from the runway by means of a captured British tank. Soon the sides of the airfield had become a giant aircraft cemetery, containing the remains of eighty Ju-52s.'
( from The Luftwaffe War Diaries by Cajus Bekker, p. 195 ).
To this needs to be added the losses at Maleme, Heraklion and Rethymnon on the previous day....
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June 27th, 2003, 06:04 PM
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That would be a great help Erich.
Thanks
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June 28th, 2003, 11:47 PM
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Great Stuff kai!!!
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Just wondered about the crew losses...Anyone found anything on them?
IŽd go for 30-50% on these operation ( Norway etc ).
In Stalingrad and Tunis probably about 90-100% in comparison...
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I saw a picture of a Ju 52 that had a large "ring" mounted about its forward/rear fuesalage and wingtips that was said to be used for finding/exploding? mines. Will someone please explain to me how this worked???????
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This was the Ju52/3m g5e (MS) or 'Mausi'.
In order to combat the British magnetic sea-mine quite early in the war, the Germans devised a light-alloy 'hoop' for the Ju52 which, when energized by a 150kW auxiliary generator and operated at a height of 10-20 metres above the sea, would detonate the mines.
I don't know how many were converted or indeed how effective they were; they were apparently used for mine-clearing post-WWII so must have been some use !
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The Ju-52 pilots were very brave. Do any of you know of books in english about the short life of a Ju-52 pilot during WWII ? I know of lots of stuff on C-47 and C-46 pilots but nothing on being a German transport pilot.
I read someplace, perhaps here on the forums, that if a fighter pilot displeased his CO on the eastern front, he would be assigned co-pilot duties in a Ju-52 during the Stalingrad period of operations.
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Afraid not but if you find one let me know!
The nearest I have is the comic strip 'Iron Annie' about the adventures of Kurt Stalmann, A Ju52 pilot and his crew on the Eastern Front...
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10 to 20 meters above sea level doesn't sound like a very safe altitude to be detonating mines!
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