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December 4th, 2003, 03:50 PM
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Can anybody give me a picture of a German 20mm AA Gun that has four barrels? I know this is kind of a strange request but I'll explain it when I get the picture...
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December 4th, 2003, 04:42 PM
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Here's one. Hope it helps.
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December 4th, 2003, 04:50 PM
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 I was hoping for a photograph...something like this:
But not a naval gun.
I have enough time to tell why I need this. The site I got the model for the 30 cal. on my post ( Here) is a very interesting site. They're making a game called "D-Day- The Last Hope" or something like that. I noticed they didn't have anyone correcting their mistakes or providing pictures of actual weapons so I signed up. I know I'm not one to correct stuff about weapons, but I always have you guys to ask for things like the 4-barreled German AA gun. 
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December 4th, 2003, 05:01 PM
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Flakpanzer IV
Flak 20mm model
Flak guns
That's all I can do for you! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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December 4th, 2003, 05:36 PM
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Ike, the weapon you are referring to is the 2cm flakvierling 38 .
Take a look at this site : -
http://www.strategyplanet.com/comman..._aircraft.html
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December 4th, 2003, 06:05 PM
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Martin,
Thank you very much for the site. I'm sure it'll help a lot for the animators.  [img]graemlins/moh.gif[/img]
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Here's another question the gamers are having trouble with. On the Sherman tank, there's usually a box on the back of the turret. What is it for? Is it a counterweight? Some storage? Then again, there are other Shermans I've seen without the box... 
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December 4th, 2003, 07:09 PM
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Believe it or not, this was the housing for the wireless set. In some versions, it was an attached 'box', in others the turret was cast with a 'bulge' to accomodate the set.
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December 4th, 2003, 07:12 PM
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The set being the radio, correct?
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December 4th, 2003, 07:21 PM
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Sorry, yes ! It's 'wireless' in the British tanks, 'radio' for the American ones... 
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December 4th, 2003, 07:24 PM
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 [img]tongue.gif[/img] No apology necessary. Thanks a million, Martin. 
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Quote:
Originally posted by Eisenhower:
Here's another question the gamers are having trouble with. On the Sherman tank, there's usually a box on the back of the turret. What is it for? Is it a counterweight? Some storage? Then again, there are other Shermans I've seen without the box...
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I assume you mean the one on Fireflys. Yes, it is for the radio (wireless as Martin puts it). The 17pdr recoil distance was such that the box was added and the rear of the turret cut out to accomidate the radio and the 17pdr's recoil. On all other Shermans the radio is still located in the turret bustle anyway.
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December 4th, 2003, 11:33 PM
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Another URGENT one...
I need to know what kind of Shermans were used for the DD Tanks!
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martin?
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December 4th, 2003, 11:45 PM
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nevermind...i found it. [img]redface.gif[/img]
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December 5th, 2003, 01:43 AM
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Yes yes...more pictures are needed. I need a picture of a 105mm and a 155mm Howitzer god enough to make a computer model out of...urgent...still...
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December 5th, 2003, 03:30 AM
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Eike getting back to the flakvierling model you did know that the Luftwaffe, Army and W-SS at Normandie had armored cabins and fronts for these trucks..... ? And even with this many times the shield for the single and 4 barrel models was removed.........why on earth do that if under a jabo attack ?
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December 5th, 2003, 04:05 AM
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Quote:
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Eike getting back to the flakvierling model you did know that the Luftwaffe, Army and W-SS at Normandie had armored cabins and fronts for these trucks..... ? And even with this many times the shield for the single and 4 barrel models was removed.........why on earth do that if under a jabo attack ?
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Because the minute amount of protection given by this armor is worthless against air attack. When these guns were armored with a shield and/or the vehicles partially protected it was for use against ground fire like small arms. This was useful in the East where these weapons frequently had a chance to operate against ground targets, particularly early in the war. In the West in 1944 such armor was essentially worthless as the primary target and attacker of such gun mounts were aircraft. What good does a 12 - 15mm shield do when the aircraft strafing you comes from a direction other than the one you have your guns facing and is pouring something like 40 - 60 .50 or 20 - 30 20mm rounds a second into your position not to mention rockets and bombs that are going to arrive shortly.....
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December 5th, 2003, 04:21 AM
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yes I knew this. I was being a joker.....it was used in normandie as you mentioned to deter small arms fire and of course as a prop for natural camouflage. Also, to be have an uncumbered crew when air attack was emminent.......though I must say the shields made good coat racks
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December 5th, 2003, 02:41 PM
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Haha, I really didn't think the Germans expected for the air to ground stuff to just bounce off the shield. Again, I need closeups of US 105 and 155 Howitzers! The sooner the better. Please and thank you! 
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December 5th, 2003, 05:58 PM
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In Guadalcanal, 1942.
From the 9th Infantry division (Vietnam era).
M144 155mm Howitzer
155mm Howitzer
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105mm Howitzer at Kasserine Pass, 1943.
A self-propelled 105mm Howitzer of the 212th Armoured Artillery batallion.
From 27th infantry regiment, 25th infantry division, (Vietnam era).
From 9th infantry division in France, 1944.
A nice 105 painting.
25th infantry division, Viet Nam.
[ 05. December 2003, 12:15 PM: Message edited by: General der Infanterie Friedrich H ]
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December 5th, 2003, 06:49 PM
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Once again, you owent above and beyond my request. Thanks a billion, Fried! 
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I just did it to keep you from complaining! [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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