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Old August 23rd, 2006, 05:12 PM
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Which sniper rifle for the US army and German army during fightings in Europe?

The Springfield
The Mauser Karabiner 98k
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I think it would depend on who was pulling the trigger. Both fine weapons.

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Extremely similar weapons. I believe we had to pay the Germans a fine in the early 1900's because the Springfield was so similar to the k98 Mauser which was made first. Not positive on that but I think I've heard it.
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Extremely similar weapons. I believe we had to pay the Germans a fine in the early 1900's because the Springfield was so similar to the k98 Mauser which was made first. Not positive on that but I think I've heard it.
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The overall design was different from the get-go. However, the bolt-action itself for the M-1903 Springfield was specifically derived from the Mauser design. However, there were slight differences. Two being that Springfield Armory improved its longevity and its durability.

In a dual however, U.S. Sharphooter vs. Japanese, Italian, or German Sniper....rifle-wise M-1903 Springfield hands down. Long range and accuracy slightly superseded the abilities of the Mauser.

Now if we were to slide into the factor the British .303 Enfield No. 4 Mk. 1....then you'd have a whole new ball-game. Bad-ass rifle for snipering. Boys down in Bristol, U.K. been busting bulls at their annual rifle shoot and the Enfield is still the reigning champion at 2,300 yards!!

If its anything the Brits built EXTREMELY WELL It was the Spitfire, Hurricane and the Enfield No. 4 Mk. 1....

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Extremely similar weapons. I believe we had to pay the Germans a fine in the early 1900's because the Springfield was so similar to the k98 Mauser which was made first. Not positive on that but I think I've heard it.
Miller,

The overall design was different from the get-go. However, the bolt-action itself for the M-1903 Springfield was specifically derived from the Mauser design. However, there were slight differencestwo being that Springfield Armory improved its longevity and its durability.

In a dual however, U.S. Sharphooter vs. Japanes, Italian, or German Sniper....rifle-wise M-1903 Springfield hands down. Long range and accuracy slightly superseded the abilities of the Mauser.

Now if we were to slide into the factor the British .303 Enfield No. 4 Mk. 1....then you'd have a whole new ball-game. Bad-ass rifle for snipering. Boys down in Bristol, U.K. been busting bulls at their annual rifle shoot and the Enfield is still the reigning champion at 2,300 yards!!

If its anything the Brit built EXTREMELY It was the Spitfire, Hurricane and the Enfield No. 4 Mk. 1....

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How about the Russian snipers? Were there Finnish snipers too during the Finnish and Russia war?
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There were certainly Finnish snipers, and here's a link to an old thread with information about the greatest of them all : -

http://www.ww2forums.com/cgi-bin/ubb...=000685#000000
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Default Re: American sniper rifle vs German sniper rifle

I think technically the springfield is better. But personally i think the mauser is better because it came first and was more effective. I mean, the springfield is the mauser but an american tweaked version. But the mauser had a fast bolt-action and was more powerful and effective. The reason the springfield was so good was because of its high accuracy. But the mauser was just a tad less accurate but was stronger and more effective.
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A superior sniper with a mediocre rifle will ALWAYS outperform a mediocre sniper with a superior rifle. Its the talent not the tools that count!
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I have to agree. It is the SKILL of the sniper not the weapon.
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Thank you falkenberg. talking about individual weapon capabilities is academic. its the skill of the operator that counts.
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Default Re: American sniper rifle vs German sniper rifle

Its the same as asking which country has the best. It all depends on the skill and opportunities of the individual. Also on the situation,length of time in service and amount of combat.
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Absolutely. who's "best"?

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Default Re: American sniper rifle vs German sniper rifle

I think both were good weapons. I think however that I'd pick the Springfield, because of its longer distance and its accuracy.
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I have fired both and I perfer the Springfield as a "sniping" weapon, but as a rifle, the Kar98
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