Did this really happen?

http://modelingmadness.com/reviews/a...cleaver152.htm

Speaking of Mustangs, there they were, 2,000 feet below - a flight of the new Mustangs that had appeared for the first time the month previously. Classen looked over at Katz, and pointed down at the enemy below and ahead - Katz nodded, and the two 152s nosed over into the attack.
The four Americans in the red-nosed P-51Hs didn't know what hit them, as the two Germans dove on them, latching onto two that exploded almost instantly when they were hit by the barrage of heavy-caliber weapons. The leader and his wingman attempted to out-turn these Langnasen's as they had always been able to do before, but they were soon aware that they were up against something different, as the two Ta-152s continued closing. Classen remembered now what it had been like to fly the old Anton when they first appeared on the Channel Front three years ago - this new Caesar had that kind of performance advantage over the enemy! He lined up behind the wildly-jinking Mustang and pulled the trigger.
The Mustang, hit in the nose, seemed to come to a stop in the air. And then the canopy flew off and a figure flashed past as Classen overran his victim. As he chandelled upwards, he saw the American's parachute open.
"Zebra Two to One - red light," he heard Katz in his headphones. A quick look at the panel showed he too had ten minutes' fuel left.
The two Ta-152s arced down, flying low over the forest as they headed for home. Five in one mission - it hadn't been like this in a long, long time! Likely it wouldn't be for much longer.

Title is: "And For Those Who Like Their History With a Chaser...", might be, might be not, there were more episodes like this in memopries, but Erich should know.

"As he touched down on the meadow, Classen passed the burned-out remains of three Doras. Obviously there had been more visitors while he'd been gone. But for this flight, this morning, for 45 minutes it had been like old times. "

That's more like it for the period. But a nice story anyway.

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given the circumstances (initial energy advantage + attacking undetected), if I was one of these German pilots, I would not rely on this encounter to draw any conculsions about the Ta152 vs P-51 H comparison

Anyway, given the neglectable quantities produced of both these planes, a comparison between the FW190D and P51D would be more intersting from an historical point of view, and I wouldn't be surprised if the 190D had a better turnrate at slow speed and low to med altitude.

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another fantasy again. Pure BS. There is only one confirmed encounter between P-51D's and the Ta 152H-1's of Stab./JG 301, and the Mustangs lost.

The P-51H was never operative in the ETO and true there can be really no comparisions given for high altitude combat with the two a/c meeting. this question has come up on a repaet basis since the internet was invented
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hey I didn't even knew P51-H were not used on the ETO !

Anyway, with more or less 500 built (maybe less before the end of WWII) this is not a very interesting plane, apart from a technical point of view

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What I am wondering is why the US had just four aircraft operating together. By that late in the war the standard was to operate in at least squadron strenght and more often in group strength. Therefore, one would expect 12 to 16 aircraft stacked vertically in groups of four covering each other and if the group is present then the squadrons are positioned to support one another. Therefore, one might expect the two Ta 152 could jump a section of four only to find themselves in a fight with two or three other sections with several more on the way. And, because of the 51's range it is likely the Ta 152 will be dogged all the way home if the US pilots can manage it.

Or (and I'm sure Erich can add to this) the Ta 152 pilots were just glad their aircraft appeared to be running without major problems; glad their flaps retracted fully, the gear came up completely, and the engine developed something close to full power.

I figured the H was a goof or typo. Mustangs could have been separated after a fighting off fighters, then headed home doing the usual strafing runs perhaps.