Axis

Members: 4,317
Threads: 15,303
Posts: 191,547
Online: 247

Newest Member:
norwaypegasus

 
 
 
Go Back   World War II Forums > General Discussion > Weapons in WWII
Register FAQ Gallery Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Weapons in WWII Discussion about the weapons and war machines created during World War Two

Reply
 
LinkBack (1) Thread Tools
  #51 (permalink)  
Old June 2nd, 2007, 05:08 PM
Stefan's Avatar
Cavalry Rupert
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Sheffield/Herts, England
Posts: 3,502
Stefan is a jewel in the roughStefan is a jewel in the roughStefan is a jewel in the roughStefan is a jewel in the rough
Default Re: Most Stupid Weapon of WWII

I think it was more of an info request. Anyhow, back to the point.
__________________
There's no honorable way to kill, no gentle way to destroy. There is nothing good in war. Except its ending.
Reply With Quote
  #52 (permalink)  
Old June 2nd, 2007, 06:19 PM
wilconqr's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast, U.S.A.
Posts: 892
wilconqr will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Most Stupid Weapon of WWII



Few should argue that since this thing was NOT intended as a suicide bomb that it was a stupid idea.
__________________
HMS Surprise
Reply With Quote
  #53 (permalink)  
Old June 2nd, 2007, 06:30 PM
Za Rodinu's Avatar
Ace
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: The world is my backside, hmm, backyard!
Posts: 5,947
Za Rodinu is just really niceZa Rodinu is just really niceZa Rodinu is just really niceZa Rodinu is just really niceZa Rodinu is just really niceZa Rodinu is just really nice
Default Re: Most Stupid Weapon of WWII

Pardon my ignorance, but if this wasn't a suicide bomb then what was it?
__________________
Everly Brothers - What I Have To Do Is Dream
"Never wrestle with pigs, you both end up getting dirty and the pig likes it."
Reply With Quote
  #54 (permalink)  
Old June 2nd, 2007, 06:53 PM
Stefan's Avatar
Cavalry Rupert
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Sheffield/Herts, England
Posts: 3,502
Stefan is a jewel in the roughStefan is a jewel in the roughStefan is a jewel in the roughStefan is a jewel in the rough
Default Re: Most Stupid Weapon of WWII

Is this the test version flown by Hanna Reitsch? If it is then surely it isn't stupid as it was used as a test platform, allowing important information on the flight dynamics of the aircraft. It gave enogh data to deal with the stability and guidanceproblems the aircraft faced.
__________________
There's no honorable way to kill, no gentle way to destroy. There is nothing good in war. Except its ending.
Reply With Quote
  #55 (permalink)  
Old June 2nd, 2007, 09:46 PM
Joe's Avatar
Joe Joe is online now
WW2F Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Britannia
Posts: 1,850
Joe is a jewel in the roughJoe is a jewel in the roughJoe is a jewel in the roughJoe is a jewel in the rough
Default Re: Most Stupid Weapon of WWII

I've heard of the piloted V-1 before. I think Hitler was disgusted by the Idea and gave it to the Japanese. I think.
On the subject, in 1945 German pilots where orderd to crash into the Rhine Bridges to stop the Allied crossings. Most disobeyed.
__________________

Caption reads: Laxatives caused an elephant called Stefan to release an out-pouring of poo, burying it's pitiful trainer alive.
Reply With Quote
  #56 (permalink)  
Old June 3rd, 2007, 01:53 AM
wilconqr's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast, U.S.A.
Posts: 892
wilconqr will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Most Stupid Weapon of WWII

Quote:
Originally Posted by Za Rodinu View Post
Pardon my ignorance, but if this wasn't a suicide bomb then what was it?
http://avia.russian.ee/air/germany/fi-103.php

Everything that I've read on this thing says that the pilot was supposed to bail out after puting it into a dive aimed at the selected target. Needless to say, all but a few fanatics were "hip" to the idea. Thus, I'd consider it a stupid weapon. Just imagine trying to bail out of this thing with a pulse jet behind your head while in a steep dive.
__________________
HMS Surprise

Last edited by wilconqr; June 3rd, 2007 at 02:24 AM. Reason: URL problems...fixed now.
Reply With Quote
  #57 (permalink)  
Old June 10th, 2007, 06:54 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 8
CBRent is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Most Stupid Weapon of WWII

How about the Dora railgun? I have no idea how many resources it took to design, fabricate, test and deploy the monster. Then they only shot 48 rounds. Pretty stupid!

More here:

http://www.hpwt.de/2Weltkrieg/Dorae.htm
Reply With Quote
  #58 (permalink)  
Old June 10th, 2007, 09:19 PM
Slipdigit's Avatar
Good Ol' Boy
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Deep in the Heart of Dixie
Posts: 3,830
Slipdigit is just really niceSlipdigit is just really niceSlipdigit is just really niceSlipdigit is just really niceSlipdigit is just really niceSlipdigit is just really nice
Default Re: Most Stupid Weapon of WWII

Quote:
Just imagine trying to bail out of this thing with a pulse jet behind your head while in a steep dive.
About as easy as picking your nose with a fur-lined mitten on.
__________________
Best Regards,
JW

Flag of the State of Alabama
Reply With Quote
  #59 (permalink)  
Old August 6th, 2007, 06:15 AM
skunk works's Avatar
WW2F Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: 3rd Rock
Posts: 1,753
skunk works is a jewel in the roughskunk works is a jewel in the roughskunk works is a jewel in the roughskunk works is a jewel in the rough
Default Re: Most Stupid Weapon of WWII

I don't know if it's a weapon, but it was pretty stupid.
I have some pictures somewhere of Japanese soldiers crawling along the ground (in China I think) with what looks like a Spartan shield on top of them. A turtle shell made out of steel.
That thing had to be heavy to be effective.
On the bright side, you could probably take a nap in safety when you got tired.
Which would be every 50-100 feet.
__________________
"Danger Will Robinson!"
Reply With Quote
  #60 (permalink)  
Old August 6th, 2007, 07:29 AM
Skipper's Avatar
Kommodore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: France
Posts: 5,056
Skipper is just really niceSkipper is just really niceSkipper is just really niceSkipper is just really niceSkipper is just really niceSkipper is just really nice
Default Re: Most Stupid Weapon of WWII

I have several names that come to my mind:

-The 1945 Luftwaffe Kamikaze on the east front(only delayed the war for 24 hours and costs many lives + aircrafts )
-The Mistel (one airrcraft put on top of the fuslelage of another)
-The Maginot line; it was hardly used, cost a fortune and the spare dmoney could have build hundreds of aircrafts, tanks and change a lot of things
-The Biber submarine which turned its user into a manned torpedo with very little chance to survive.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #61 (permalink)  
Old August 6th, 2007, 10:22 AM
Joe's Avatar
Joe Joe is online now
WW2F Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Britannia
Posts: 1,850
Joe is a jewel in the roughJoe is a jewel in the roughJoe is a jewel in the roughJoe is a jewel in the rough
Default Re: Most Stupid Weapon of WWII

I agree on the Maginot line. The Germans attacked through that area in 1870, so the French always thought they would attack there again. They didn't in ww1 so the French where stupid to think that they would do it again. And besides, if you had two choices;
-attack through a heavily defended area, all according to the enemy's plan
OR
-walk through a neutral country to attack they lightly defended bit.
If the French had extended the Maginot line on ALL of France's borders, the war might of been different. The would have to fortify the beaches as well in case Germany wanted to do an amphibious landing.

Of course, the French could of not built it and made their army bigger and better.
__________________

Caption reads: Laxatives caused an elephant called Stefan to release an out-pouring of poo, burying it's pitiful trainer alive.
Reply With Quote
  #62 (permalink)  
Old August 6th, 2007, 10:52 AM
Za Rodinu's Avatar
Ace
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: The world is my backside, hmm, backyard!
Posts: 5,947
Za Rodinu is just really niceZa Rodinu is just really niceZa Rodinu is just really niceZa Rodinu is just really niceZa Rodinu is just really niceZa Rodinu is just really nice
Default Re: Most Stupid Weapon of WWII

Joe, if the Germans in 1870 attacked through the Maginot line general area, and in WW1 attacked elsewhere, and if per what you say it would be stupid to attack again thorough the same place, where would it be logical to attack again? Again through the Maginot area, after all they hadn't attacked through there for the last 70 years.

Besides, look at a map. One of the historically most fortified areas in Western Europe at the time was the Flanders-North-Northeast of France region, since Louis XIV. France WAS fortified on all it's borders, only it did not have an Hadrian's Wall everywhere.
__________________
Everly Brothers - What I Have To Do Is Dream
"Never wrestle with pigs, you both end up getting dirty and the pig likes it."
Reply With Quote
  #63 (permalink)  
Old August 6th, 2007, 11:02 AM
Joe's Avatar
Joe Joe is online now
WW2F Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Britannia
Posts: 1,850
Joe is a jewel in the roughJoe is a jewel in the roughJoe is a jewel in the roughJoe is a jewel in the rough
Default Re: Most Stupid Weapon of WWII

But I think we can all agree they should have concentrated on building better weapons and changing their tactics. Most French tanks where better than their German counterparts, but the French system of using them was outdated by the Blitzkrieg.
__________________

Caption reads: Laxatives caused an elephant called Stefan to release an out-pouring of poo, burying it's pitiful trainer alive.
Reply With Quote
  #64 (permalink)  
Old August 6th, 2007, 11:04 AM
Kai-Petri's Avatar
Kenraali
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Kotka, Finland
Posts: 13,254
Kai-Petri is a jewel in the roughKai-Petri is a jewel in the roughKai-Petri is a jewel in the roughKai-Petri is a jewel in the roughKai-Petri is a jewel in the rough
Angry Re: Most Stupid Weapon of WWII

If they only had had strategic reserves....
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #65 (permalink)  
Old August 6th, 2007, 11:25 AM
Za Rodinu's Avatar
Ace
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: The world is my backside, hmm, backyard!
Posts: 5,947
Za Rodinu is just really niceZa Rodinu is just really niceZa Rodinu is just really niceZa Rodinu is just really niceZa Rodinu is just really niceZa Rodinu is just really nice
Default Re: Most Stupid Weapon of WWII

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe View Post
But I think we can all agree they should have concentrated on building better weapons and changing their tactics. Most French tanks where better than their German counterparts, but the French system of using them was outdated by the Blitzkrieg.
Yes, I agree that doctrine and command methods were completely outdated by generations.
__________________
Everly Brothers - What I Have To Do Is Dream
"Never wrestle with pigs, you both end up getting dirty and the pig likes it."
Reply With Quote
  #66 (permalink)  
Old August 6th, 2007, 11:33 AM
Joe's Avatar
Joe Joe is online now
WW2F Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Britannia
Posts: 1,850
Joe is a jewel in the roughJoe is a jewel in the roughJoe is a jewel in the roughJoe is a jewel in the rough
Default Re: Most Stupid Weapon of WWII

Without straying too far off topic, I should say that the French and British used their tanks as they did in WW1.
__________________

Caption reads: Laxatives caused an elephant called Stefan to release an out-pouring of poo, burying it's pitiful trainer alive.
Reply With Quote
  #67 (permalink)  
Old August 6th, 2007, 11:38 AM
Joe's Avatar
Joe Joe is online now
WW2F Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Britannia
Posts: 1,850
Joe is a jewel in the roughJoe is a jewel in the roughJoe is a jewel in the roughJoe is a jewel in the rough
Default Re: Most Stupid Weapon of WWII

Quote:
Originally Posted by CBRent View Post
How about the Dora railgun? I have no idea how many resources it took to design, fabricate, test and deploy the monster. Then they only shot 48 rounds. Pretty stupid!

More here:

http://www.hpwt.de/2Weltkrieg/Dorae.htm
I hate it when people say grenade instead of shell.
__________________

Caption reads: Laxatives caused an elephant called Stefan to release an out-pouring of poo, burying it's pitiful trainer alive.
Reply With Quote
  #68 (permalink)  
Old August 6th, 2007, 01:02 PM
Za Rodinu's Avatar
Ace
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: The world is my backside, hmm, backyard!
Posts: 5,947
Za Rodinu is just really niceZa Rodinu is just really niceZa Rodinu is just really niceZa Rodinu is just really niceZa Rodinu is just really niceZa Rodinu is just really nice
Default Re: Most Stupid Weapon of WWII

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe View Post
Without straying too far off topic, I should say that the French and British used their tanks as they did in WW1.
Speaking of the Campaign of France context, sometimes they did, other times not. The French did some nice tank counter-attacks, the Battle of Stonne comes to mind.
__________________
Everly Brothers - What I Have To Do Is Dream
"Never wrestle with pigs, you both end up getting dirty and the pig likes it."
Reply With Quote
  #69 (permalink)  
Old August 6th, 2007, 03:56 PM
White Flight's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Carrollton, Texas USA
Posts: 193
White Flight is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Most Stupid Weapon of WWII

The manned flying bomb, Yokosuka MXY-7 Ohka.
Yokosuka MXY-7 Ohka - manned flying bomb


Last edited by White Flight; August 6th, 2007 at 06:21 PM. Reason: Correction of web link
Reply With Quote
  #70 (permalink)  
Old August 6th, 2007, 04:29 PM
Skipper's Avatar
Kommodore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: France
Posts: 5,056
Skipper is just really niceSkipper is just really niceSkipper is just really niceSkipper is just really niceSkipper is just really niceSkipper is just really nice
Default Re: Most Stupid Weapon of WWII

That flying bomb is a nice model! It's the first time I see one of those.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #71 (permalink)  
Old August 19th, 2007, 03:58 AM
Seadog's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 322
Seadog is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Most Stupid Weapon of WWII

Well, I just picked up a copy of the World's Worse Weapons. I thought about this place and thought why not. ONe WWII example was the Bachem Natter. A rocket powered interceptor with 24 rockets in the nose. The Northrop XP-56 was another example, as was the Blackburn Roc.
__________________
Lord, let me be the person my dog thinks I am.
Reply With Quote
  #72 (permalink)  
Old August 26th, 2007, 01:48 AM
Herr Oberst's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Nord
Posts: 508
Herr Oberst has a spectacular aura about