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Old February 19th, 2007, 12:10 AM
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Exclamation Landkreuzer P. 1000 Ratte

What the heck is this? What if this beast of a tank acaully became apart of the German army?

How well do you think it would perform agianst other tanks? :/

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Old February 19th, 2007, 02:57 AM
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A sure sign of insanity. As a weapons system it would have proved absolutely worthless. First, it would be unable to move by road or cross major rivers as neither any road or bridge would support it. It likely could not have even operated on anything but hard ground. Moving near buildings would have very likely caused damage to them just from ground vibration.
Its enemies would have struck it with artillery and aircraft not to mention just shooting it up with vastly superior numbers of guns, tanks, and other systems that were produced in abundance.
It reminds me of an old science fiction board game called Ogre. One player had the "Ogre" this huge supposedly unstoppable tank-like vehicle. The other side had what one might call "conventional" tanks, artillery, etc. Against anyone but a complete fool the Ogre always lost.
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"A smoke curtain a day keeps the nazi tank blind anyway"
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A sure sign of insanity.
I think you could have cheerfully left it at that.
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Could it have done any damage to the opposing armies.. hypthetically? like if it got the first shot
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Default Re: Landkreuzer P. 1000 Ratte

But what was the intent of the behemoth? Shooting at tanks, fortifications, cities? What was it's rate of fire? How much fuel did it consume per 100kms (implying how big would the logistical train be)? How long would it take to travel those 100kms? Through what roads / bridges?

We are in pure www.luft46.com and Nazi Moonbase (TM) territory.
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A correct statement about something from Sci-Fi. Read the "Hammers Slammers" series, All about their multi-tri-barreled guns on their hovercraft.
A fun thought but, what were they thinking? Really? Them and the Japanese as well with their Yamato/Musashi. Did they actually believe they would do a "Chilvilary type Joust" with something smaller, and be able to decimate one opponent after another, one on one?
No. Once spotted, they would be decimated by something they were not designed to compete against. Not fair, I know, but what in war is?
Perfect targets for "Jabos", "Engineers", and I doubt they would have gotten the chance to get close enough (because of logistics/support/protection/detection), to combat enemy tanks.
P-47s/IL-2s/Typhoons were cruising above the airspace of Patton and the rest of the "Boys". At the first sign of trouble (and "trouble" these would be), wave after wave would pound it to dust.
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Default Re: Landkreuzer P. 1000 Ratte

it does has AA defence.. but yeah I soppose

Dang.. I wish to see a tank bigger than the Maus(?) and the Tiger II

Is there any other Experimental tanks that couldv'e been good?
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Ah, why use fighter bombers with their puny 500 lb bombs on something that big and immobile? Lets just drop a tallboy on it from 20,000 feet. No AA fire to sweat, and with a decent bomb aimer using a STABS no way to miss. :P
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If we are on what-if territory, why not a Tallboy with TV terminal guidance?

The Americans had a glide bomb with that by that time.
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