You Europeans get all the fun stuff to look at

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It is true that if you know where to look, you can find history at almost every corner here. They are digging a new road next to my home and they a found Roman camp, Gallic farms , Carolingian buildings and so on, just by digging with a few bulls. I saw it on TV , it's fascinating. WWII stuff is everywhere. Last week 500 kilo bomb was found near the city of Tours.

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It's a standard, late-model Tiger I Ausf. E turret....

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ok thanks, the Porshe turrets were on the earlier versions, that's why I asked, I knowthis Tiger was used in 1944, but I was wondering when they stopped using Porsche turrets.

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This is pick on Martin day!

Its ok for you moderators to post their photos, but when us plebs try it they get rejected due to size constraints (350k).

Tried to post a photo of Mailly-le-Camp Memorial last week, and was rejected.

Woe is me!

Robin 156 Squadron = Pathfinder Force

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Robin if you can't post the Malily memorial pic I would stilllove to have it . If ok I can send you a pm with my email.

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I think I see a ww2 forums reunion happening here, would this be great or what with Martin of course buying at all the bars !!

great pics guys ! sorry Neil that young wipper snapper is not wearing official panzer uniform and insignia

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Rip it up !

Ooh, I bet you say that to EVERY girl you meet!

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Za!....








.... what a little tramp you are!


a-a-a-a-a-n-y-h-o-o-o.... I loved the pics, and, not being overly familiar with the details of German armor, was quite surprised at all of the vertical faces... I thought the conventional wisdom was that sloping sides were more resistant to impacts.

...silly me.

-whatever

-Lou

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Scarface, you are used to think in terms of Panther and later. If you look at Pz I, Pz II, Pz III, PzIV, almost all maisn surfaces are vertical or close to it.

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This is in fact a very fair comment. Several German tank 'aces' ( including, I think, Carius as described in his memoirs ) are recorded as being distinctly unimpressed at their first view of the Tiger I.

The design was 'old school' ( ie pre-T34 ) but it did of course have the benefits of very thick armourplate and, above all, a main armament which outranged virtually anything on the battlefield.

The Tiger II ( 'King' or 'Royal' Tiger ) is more representative of later WWII tank design.

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Just realised this thread seems to lack some frontal views, so here are a couple.......








...just to make sure alles in ordnung.....

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That last pick is currently my computer's background.

You photographer you..

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...we're assuming, of course, that the small person was suitably chastised, and the metallic fragments have been confiscated and are now firmly esconced in the responsible adult's burgeoning artifact collection...











(.... I mean, it's only the RESPONSIBLE thing to do.... right?...)

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-Lou

nice pics, Guys!

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I also thought it was ineresting to note in one of the links that Poop provided that if the light sand color and the darker brown color were reversed, it would be a more accurate rendition of the actual camouflage scheme (ie dark brown splotches surrounded by a thin, light sand band, all on the dark green background).

(....details, details....)

...still, a really neat piece of adult playground equipment.

-whatever

-Lou

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These last pictures only prove that a Tiger is ugly any way you look at it

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not that it is going to matter nor ever done but really getting theTiger back close to some original paint/camo scheme of the SS Schwere Pz Abt. 102 would not be that hard. there is plenty of photo evidence at our fingertips

she may be ugly but she was a terror

I look at Martin's picture, and I immediately imagine myself peeking over the lip of a cold, wet, clammy foxhole....... gripping my piddly little M-1 in shaking hands....jeeze-o-pete!....how would you STOP something like that!


....what a fearsome beast!

-whatever

-Lou

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Of course I'm joking!

Sandblasting this awful paint scheme and restoring an accurate one would be of course possible but somebody would have to come up with the wherewhithal.

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Excellent suggestion, Za! That would make a wonderful 'Forum Project'. Since it was your idea, why don't you take this one on!

Okay....moving down the agenda, we've got....let's see.....ah, yes!

'The Lancaster Restoration'...... we need to find an old Lancaster.... pick it up on the cheap, and restore it to pristine 'Dam Busters' configuratiion....

Martin....judging by your Guy Gibson signature line quote, this little project would probably be a good fit for you.

Okay, gentlemen, that about sums up everything on MY agenda....

....this has been a good thread.... I think we got some things done....

...I'll be looking forward to hearing your reports next month!

-whatever

-Lou

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wow!!
that's a great pic coming off the turret, i wonde if anyone knows the specifics of the battle that left this machine here, or did i read in this thread earlier, that it simply ran out of fuel and was abandoned?

Various books have it running out of fuel, one or two German accounts I have read cite problems with the engine oil system - one book claiming that this Tiger had 'a history of problems'.....

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thanks Martin,
do you have any titles of the book, i would love to read them!
thanks!!!

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Scott

20.08.44

Several Tigers conduct a counterattack from Vimoutiers to Trun, engaement near Champosoult, several enemy tanks destroyed. 1 Tiger of Reisske which suspiciously used to be in need of constant repairs, often due to technical failure, suffers a piston jam which was caused by the lack of motor oil and is left behind at Vimoutiers.......

gents do we know the turret number assigned to this particular vehicle ?

E ~

..personally I think bright sunlight gives the beast an almost 'toy-like' quality ...I prefer the 'damp' look..