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October 3rd, 2007, 11:05 PM
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TIGER I (Late Production) ?
I just purchased a 1/35 Tiger I model kit and I was wondering if someone could please tell me if all late production Tiger Is had zimmeret applied to the sides?
Thanx in advance,
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October 4th, 2007, 08:42 AM
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Re: TIGER I (Late Production) ?
Zimmerit was introduced Sept. '43 & discontinued September '44 (If I remember right).
Tiger1 was produced until August '44.
So theoretically all late production ones should be zimmeritted.
Though as this is the crazy world of German tanks this doesn't necesarily mean that all were.
The Vimoutiers Tiger is a 1944 product but doesn't appear to have the paste anywhere other than on the glacis step... hard to tell from grainy black and white pictures though: The Vimoutiers Tiger.
I sympathise with the modellers fear of Zimmerit... I've avoided it succesfully myself so far  .
Cheers,
Adam.
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October 4th, 2007, 02:56 PM
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Re: TIGER I (Late Production) ?
this is dependent on theater, remember that most of the Königstigers had Zimmeritt coating while serving on the Ost front, so in same the Tiger I
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October 4th, 2007, 05:19 PM
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Re: TIGER I (Late Production) ?
In the 1970s, the Vimoutiers Tiger had fragments of original Zimmerit still attached ( see the cover of After The Battle # 8 ) but this was removed by over-zealous French 'restorers'..... 
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October 4th, 2007, 05:43 PM
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Re: TIGER I (Late Production) ?
O.k. Thanx fellas! I'm gonna go with zimmerit. Grrrrr.
I found a resin set that just glues on top. I'll just go with that.
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October 4th, 2007, 09:21 PM
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Re: TIGER I (Late Production) ?
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Originally Posted by Von Poop
Zimmerit was introduced Sept. '43 & discontinued September '44 (If I remember right).
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Interesting thing about Zimmerit, it was produced as a counter to magnetic anti-tank mines, but none of the Allies ever used a magnetic anti-tank mine ??????
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October 4th, 2007, 09:30 PM
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Re: TIGER I (Late Production) ?
actually for the sticky mine on the Ost front really
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October 4th, 2007, 10:09 PM
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Re: TIGER I (Late Production) ?
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actually for the sticky mine on the Ost front really
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Due you have any info on this weapon ?
Its unknown to me.
ps, zimmerit was designed as a counter for magnetic mines
Zimmerit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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October 4th, 2007, 10:16 PM
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October 4th, 2007, 10:34 PM
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Re: TIGER I (Late Production) ?
We've been through this here and 'elsewhere'.
Zimmerit paste and magnetic mines
There was a thing called the Magnetic Clam Charge/Mine that was supplied to the soviets in tens of thousands as aid ( Illustrated here) but as it's only an 8oz charge I still can't see it as an anti-armour weapon.
There's also, I suppose, captured Hafthohlladung (and possibly very limited 'clones' thereof rings a very small bell), but I can't see that being seen as a convincing enough threat to necessitate zimmerit either.
I stick by the belief that Zimmerit was the Germans taking a somewhat 'belt & braces' approach and defending against a weapon that wasn't really being fielded against them. No harm in whacking a few pounds of paste on just in case, but if they found it genuinely worthwhile I don't believe it would have been withdrawn in '44. Not being made with any strategic or rare materials (as the British found to their chagrin after analysing the stuff).
Cheers,
Adam.
(sorry, cross-posted with za's links above... must read them now... mildly fascinated with the stuff.)
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October 7th, 2007, 12:20 AM
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Re: TIGER I (Late Production) ?
The "Coal" mine, and the "Rock" mine are good, but the "Turd" mine is my favorite.
Pretty sneaky
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October 7th, 2007, 11:50 AM
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Re: TIGER I (Late Production) ?
Millsgrenades is a fine little site.
I recommend this page for maximum jealousy at the things some people have in their collections  :
The Box
Cheers,
Adam.
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October 7th, 2007, 03:29 PM
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Re: TIGER I (Late Production) ?
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The British had a sticky bomb to - no 74 sticky bomb 
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October 7th, 2007, 05:28 PM
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Re: TIGER I (Late Production) ?
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The British had a sticky bomb to - no 74 sticky bomb 
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The No 74 grenade's only known combat use was as a demolition device by partisans, it was never used by the British army in combat.
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