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January 29th, 2008, 07:43 PM
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Re: Sturmgewehr 44
No need to offend the Eskimos!
Hey Slon, he's right, I haven't seen your mug in the Rogue's Gallery!
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February 5th, 2008, 03:52 AM
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Re: Sturmgewehr 44
Not only was the Sturmgewehr such a advanced weapon for that time period but what about the Fallschirmjägergewehr? with the magazine on the side instead at the bottom of the weapon, I think it was mostly geared for the paratrooper units, this thing is awesome.
Google Image Result for http://www.efour4ever.com/fg42.JPG

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February 5th, 2008, 09:07 AM
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Re: Sturmgewehr 44
Though apparently uncomfortable to fire, having held one it seemed really well balanced though. It was designed for paratroopers, hence the name.
I'm not sure having a mag on the side makes it advanced though *cough*STEN*cough*
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February 5th, 2008, 10:50 AM
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Re: Sturmgewehr 44
The FG 42 is a brilliant weapon as long as you don't ask too much from it. A fully loaded mag tend to unbalance the weapon.
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February 5th, 2008, 03:01 PM
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Re: Sturmgewehr 44
The other problems with the FG 42 are a very large muzzle flash, particularly on automatic and that it has a very heavy recoil being both light and having a short barrel.
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February 5th, 2008, 10:45 PM
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Re: Sturmgewehr 44
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The other problems with the FG 42 are a very large muzzle flash, particularly on automatic and that it has a very heavy recoil being both light and having a short barrel.
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I can support both the muzzle flash and the recoil, having put a couple of rounds through one. Sadly, not allowed to shoot full auto, though.
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February 6th, 2008, 05:26 AM
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Re: Sturmgewehr 44
I love muzzle flashes, whats wrong with that? I think the weapon is awesome. But then again I haven't fired it, which I would love to do.
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February 6th, 2008, 06:09 AM
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Re: Sturmgewehr 44
So what's the next step? Are we going to compare the Rogues with the guns now and say they were inpired by the Soviets or that they are in fact German made but copied by the U.S. ? 
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February 6th, 2008, 06:39 AM
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Re: Sturmgewehr 44
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I love muzzle flashes, whats wrong with that?
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Your enemy would love them, too - they can see exactly where you are when you fire at them.....
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February 6th, 2008, 08:20 AM
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Re: Sturmgewehr 44
and AK's and M-16's don't have muzzle flashes..................?
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February 6th, 2008, 08:49 AM
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Re: Sturmgewehr 44
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and AK's and M-16's don't have muzzle flashes..................?
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Not like THIS, they don't.....

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February 8th, 2008, 12:34 PM
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Re: Sturmgewehr 44
you are right about the stg 44 thatthing was awesome, althouhg i have never actually found a picture of the weapon in combat only in still pictures like your one do you know any?
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February 8th, 2008, 01:06 PM
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Re: Sturmgewehr 44
Then of course, there is such a thing as getting carried away  :
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never actually found a picture of the weapon in combat only in still pictures like your one do you know any?
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Define 'in combat'. There seems to be a great deal of footage of German troops carrying the gun on active service scattered about the internet, less of it actually being fired at an enemy.
Few snippets on the video here:
Translated version of http://theatrumbelli.hautetfort.com/tag/STG+44
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February 8th, 2008, 02:12 PM
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Re: Sturmgewehr 44
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Then of course, there is such a thing as getting carried away  :
Define 'in combat'. There seems to be a great deal of footage of German troops carrying the gun on active service scattered about the internet, less of it actually being fired at an enemy.
Few snippets on the video here:
Translated version of http://theatrumbelli.hautetfort.com/tag/STG+44
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February 8th, 2008, 03:49 PM
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What? By totally unbalancing the weapon and adding significantly to the weight? Yeah, that's a lot of bootie (or arse if you prefer).
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Re: Sturmgewehr 44
Perhaps I should have included the stylish and compact battery unit  :

Though there is something to be said for being able to shoot at night.
However... if I remember correctly the British (and others?) were fielding anti-infrared devices around late '44 (I'm sure I've got a picture somewhere of a compact detector unit on a Universal carrier, & special binoculars for tank commanders  ) and it seems likely that much of the German infrared stuff would have been outclassed even if they had got it to battle in sufficient numbers.
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February 8th, 2008, 05:15 PM
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Look at the size of the "Power unit"! I wonder how heavy it was and how much of a hinderance it would be in combat?
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February 8th, 2008, 05:20 PM
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Re: Sturmgewehr 44
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Wonder how much a genuine Krummlauf attachment would go for on the Militaria/gun market today? A great deal I would imagine.
I've often wondered whether the 90 degree one splintering the bullet really mattered, considering it's intended use? If I recall rightly Hogg seems to imply the barrel could take the punishment quite well.
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February 8th, 2008, 05:59 PM
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Re: Sturmgewehr 44
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i have never actually found a picture of the weapon in combat only in still pictures like your one do you know any?
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Photos of the MP44 in use can be found in various books about the Ardennes Offensive ( eg Parker's 'Battle Of The Bulge' ) and late-war Ostfront ( eg Carell's 'Bildband' ) etc, and even in Normandy in various Heimdal/Armes et Militaria publications.
One needs to bear in mind that by the time the MP44 was issued, the Germans were losing/in retreat and there weren't so many PK-Berichter on hand to take photos, and if there were ( eg in the Ardennes ) the photos were often captured/destroyed fairly quickly ( like the legendary photos of the MP44-toting Waffen-SS man at Poteau ).
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