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Default Re: Sturmgewehr 44

Kalashnikov was just a scaled down version, too bad the Sturm wasn't put into production earlier.
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On the first 'scaled down' thing... read the thread mate.

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too bad the Sturm wasn't put into production earlier.
Why?
Wanting a better equipped Wehrmacht are we?

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...too bad the Sturm wasn't put into production earlier.

Just blame the guilty one as much as you like....



Both the Maschinen Karabiner were shown to Hitler on April 14, 1942, but he was not
impressed, and disapproved the further development of the weapons.

Hitler however, continually refused to see the advantages of the Maschinen Karabiner .
His idea was that the infantry needed self-loading rifles which fired the standard 8 x 57 ammo and more submachine guns.

MP44.nl - German Uniforms and Equipment - Sturmgewehr 44 - History
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On the first 'scaled down' thing... read the thread mate.

On this:

Why?
Wanting a better equipped Wehrmacht are we?

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whats wrong with that? that picture below is Wilhelm Mohnke who was the SS-Brigadeführer. I respect him, he stood up to Goebbels about the Hitler youth dying in vain defending Hitler's bunker and stood up to Hitler himself about the civilians dying from starvation in Berlin.
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This is Wilhelm Mohnke, the photo you so proudly show is André Hennicke, a German ACTOR! That photo was taken from the film "Downfall"

Hennicke also played your friend Herr Dr. Roland Freisler in the film "Sophie Scholl - The Final Days", which may tell us something about his ideological outlook.

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whats wrong with that?.
More death from a better equipped aggressor army?
More time for the genocidal projects to run?
More chance for the Reich to survive?
More difficulties for the Allies to overcome in their just chastisement of a criminal regime?

What's wrong with that?
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We seem to be drifting slightly off-topic here.....
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This is Wilhelm Mohnke, the photo you so proudly show is André Hennicke, a German ACTOR! That photo was taken from the film "Downfall"

Hennicke also played your friend Herr Dr. Roland Freisler in the film "Sophie Scholl - The Final Days", which may tell us something about his ideological outlook.

Do give us more, we just love comic relief!
you seriously thought I was thinking I posted the real picture of Mohnke?
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From the posts you have made it wouldn't be a surprise.
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Jaeger, interesting use of an acronym...

POS - What does POS stand for? Acronyms and abbreviations by the Free Online Dictionary.
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Za

...... or it could be that I was too lazy to type PactOfSteel and decided to write POS.

I hope that I'm not in trouble for typing Za rather than Za Rodinu, it might be an acronym for something nasty.
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Anything which improved the performance of the German Army and thereby delayed the end of the war would have had one result: the first atom bombs would have been dropped on Germany instead of Japan.
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Sturmgewehr, greatest weapon of the war. GERMAN made.
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Sturmgewehr, greatest weapon of the war. GERMAN made.
Even if you're talking about small arms only, I disagree.
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And yet for being the "Greatest" weapon of the war it was not adopted by any other country after the war and pretty much faded into relative obscurity.
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AK-47 is still the most used and the most reliable weapon today!
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Anything which improved the performance of the German Army and thereby delayed the end of the war would have had one result: the first atom bombs would have been dropped on Germany instead of Japan.
Spot on Tony! This is probably the single most ignored concept that a lot of pro-waffen alternate historians forget. If you extend the European war just a few months, (via the me262, V2, atomic bomb or another wonder weapon) Germany would receive the only wonder-weapon that mattered; the A-bomb.
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Sturmgewehr, greatest weapon of the war. GERMAN made.
Although no sources are cited, this post is in bold lettering and uses some CAPITAL letters, so it must be true.

I'm done with my tangents, back to the original thread topic: the mp44.
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drop the a-bomb on the bolshevik hordes? I dont think that would go over too well with Stalin.
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AK-47 is still the most used and the most reliable weapon today!
Yes it is and its not the Sturmgewehr 44 is it?
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Default Re: Sturmgewehr 44

POS, have you missed the sheer number of posts devoted to pointing out that the AK47 and the Stg44 were different weapons, had different mechanisms and were only similar in that they used a shortened version of a normal rifle cartridge and looked vaguely alike. Further confusion is generally the province of the misguided and the ignorant

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drop the a-bomb on the bolshevik hordes? I dont think that would go over too well with Stalin.
No, on Germany, not the USSR. Easy to get those two mixed up I know but try not to.
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