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March 19th, 2008, 08:13 PM
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Re: Best British Tank of WW2
But what has the Pz IV got to do in a British tank thread?
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Re: Best British Tank of WW2
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I agree! Let's discuss which is he prettiest tank!
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March 19th, 2008, 08:25 PM
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Re: Best British Tank of WW2
Hmmm, good idea-blame everything on Za!
Za-The wall street crash was your fault!
Za-the current economic decline in the world today is your fault!
Za-Tomcat talking about Panzers in a British tank thread is your fault!
Only kidding mate! It was PzJgr's fault for the recession-He released to many StuGs onto the market.
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March 19th, 2008, 08:33 PM
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Re: Best British Tank of WW2
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I vote the unsung Valentine. If the Russians - who had a thing or two to say about tank design - liked it, then it certainly had to be good.
Reliable, mobile, low-silhouette, well armed (6pdr versions), well armoured for the size, a great tank.
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March 19th, 2008, 09:11 PM
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March 19th, 2008, 09:27 PM
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Re: Best British Tank of WW2
Was that a rare conversion? thats probably the first time I've heard of sticking a 17pdr in a Churchill.
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March 19th, 2008, 09:39 PM
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Re: Best British Tank of WW2
It's the A43 Super Churchill or Black Prince. It never went into production, but was an equal to the Tiger at least.
Though the Tiger was superior in speed.
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March 19th, 2008, 10:23 PM
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Re: Best British Tank of WW2
The Cadman brothers have a Black Prince Hulk, I do hope it gets restored/remade to running condition one day.
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March 31st, 2008, 03:04 PM
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Re: Best British Tank of WW2
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The Churchills used by the 8th Army in North Africa and The Italian campaign with US 75mm guns were actually 6pdr models as built with US guns fitted 'in the field' from wrecked Shermans (complete with mount as I recall!). If memory serves there were about 120 of them so converted. So again as with the Firefly is this really a British Tank?
The British built 75mm Churchills did not arrive in numbers until the Normandy campaign (even then they were in short supply and battalions had a mix of these and 6pdr's) and although they were popular from a certain perspective since unlike everything else they could resist hits to the front from some German weapons and the specialist armour was useful they could still not take on the Panthers and Tigers plagueing the commonwealth forces in particular so I can't see 'Best British Tank' being a worthy title.
How about Matilda II in 1940 ?
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The Churchill with the 75mm QF was the Churchill VII, the Churchill with the Sherman front turret (not just the gun) was the Churchill NA (North Africa). They were converted Churchill IVs. Btw, the 6pdr QF on the Churchill III and IV was a better anti-tank gun than the 75mm, but the HE round of the 75mm was slightly better, and the ammo more plentiful, so they wanted to take advantage of that.
I'd agree with the Matilda II, it was probably the best tank in the world in 1940.
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